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[Travel] Teacher who was staring at her phone and hit by a cyclist win compensation.



Pogue Mahone

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Apr 30, 2011
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I don't like cyclists or teachers but if the judge has ruled 50/50 responsibility and the teacher only gets 50% of compensation, does the cyclist get the other 50%? Can he sue her now she has been adjudged 50% culpable in court?

You'd hate me.

Especially as I find Steve Earle and the Dukes to be unlistenable garbage.

:)
 




Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Withdean area
Is the correct answer. In my driving lessons the instructor made me drive through the town centre at <10mph in case anyone stepped out.

Some absolutely idiotic comments at the start of this thread! Look at the time and location - Garden designer Mr Hazeldean was returning from work in central London to his then home in Archway when he collided with Ms Brushett as she crossed the busy junction of King William Street and Cannon Street, at the north end of London Bridge, at 5pm on July 20, 2015.

That crossing would've been rammed full of pedestrians at that time. Any vehicle or bike shouldn't just race though crowded areas without moderating their speed to suit the conditions.

Where did it say “race”?
 






The Clamp

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I recall a few years ago, I was strolling through Brighton on my afternoon constitutional and emerged from a twitten, the one that used to have the dildo emporium on it, out onto middle street.
I stepped into the road but hadn’t noticed a lady cyclist trundling along about 20 metres to my right. My fault. I’ve never seen anyone be immediately thrown into panic in quite the way she was. There was no traffic, she could have easily turned her handlebars and dodged me.
I recall a sort of primal noise eminating from her “waarggghahhhhugggggh” as she wibbled and wobbled the handlebars without actually taking any decisive action. I calmly stepped back into the narrow pavement as she fell off her bike that she had taken her feet off the pedals from in sheer panic.
It’s not a great story but it makes me chuckle to this day. No decisive action, just utter panic.
One (her) must always be prepared for the unexpected (me).
 




perseus

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Jul 5, 2003
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Where did it say “race”?

Cyclist said 10 to 15 mph. I'm not sure if I believe that but it was not disputed.

What else can a cyclist do? Not as though it was a blind corner.

Negligence just does not hold water.
 




perseus

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Jul 5, 2003
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The court accepted that speed. Who are we to dispute it from afar?

I'm not disputing it. Up to 15 mph could not conceivably be negligent on the part of the cyclist on a clear road. 6.7 metres per second.
 






symyjym

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I can't play with my phone and walk at the same time mainly because of sun glare, and I have a strong instinct to look where I am going and not walk into people and objects like lamp posts. To walk with my head in a phone is too much of a personal battle to bother with. I do adjust my driving style with lots pedestrians all over the place and I always expect the unexpected.

Anyway it would be interesting to know if this teacher has changed her smart phone habits rather than the court justifying her right to walk blind into a road and just continues her suicide mission. Has she learned anything herself from this experience?
 










drew

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Warning someone who looked like they were about to step INTO the road, I'd agree. 'Warning' someone who was already IN the road, and 'about to step onto the pavement' (his testimony), is nothing but rude unnecessary aggression.

Are you not distorting what was described? You make it sound like she was almost across the road where in fact once she heard his warning she stepped back towards the island (not the pavement) but that he had already altered his course to avoid a collision but unfortunately her stepping back instead of carrying on forward meant they collided.

That said, as the judge found them equally culpable, although I disagree, then the cyclist merely needs to submit a counter claim at least equal to if not more then hers. The only winners are the lawyers who will pick up all of their costs!!!
 




Stat Brother

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You'd hate me.

Especially as I find Steve Earle and the Dukes to be unlistenable garbage.

:)

Well that'll be the end of trying to win over hearts and minds, nice one Pogue. :lol:.


Oh god I've just realised what you've done.

I hope Harry Wilson's tackle isn't viewing this thread because if he is we'll soon be asked:-

'What's you're favourite unlistenable garbage?'. :facepalm:
 


Stat Brother

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Has anyone asked:-

'Why would a non-American sue when they know they have some responsibility?'


I'd be too embarrassed.
 




Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
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Indeed. Would these people fly down a residential street at 30mph, with parked cars both sides, without a care in the world, because if a little kid steps out between the cars it would be their own fault anyway?

(That's rhetorical, btw...)

Because of the building works, and Lewes road having one bus lane, one lane for traffic; during peak periods there is often a backlog of traffic and plenty of drivers instead turn off and drive along Colbourne Avenue. Some of them drive at higher speeds than is appropriate for a residential street. I've seen cars speeding along completely ignoring kids playing on the pavement and toddlers being unloaded by distracted parents. I don't know if those people are posting on this thread, but it is something that some drivers absolutely do, just to get a couple of hundred metres ahead in the slow-moving queue.
 




jonny.rainbow

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Oct 29, 2005
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It’s probably just me but I find it incredibly rude when cyclist ring their bells because they wish to get past pedestrians. How is that any different to someone who is walking faster then the person in front, getting behind then and yelling “OUT OF MY WAY”! ?

Surely a polite “excuse me” or waiting for a gap to pass through is more appropriate. I’ll always move aside if I know a cyclist is approaching from behind, there’s no need to ring your ****ing Bell at me.

Interesting you should say this.

There’s a dog-walking chap on my commute to work who loves berating cyclists for NOT using their bell on the cycle path he likes to walk his dogs on.
 


Pogue Mahone

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Apr 30, 2011
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Well that'll be the end of trying to win over hearts and minds, nice one Pogue. :lol:.


Oh god I've just realised what you've done.

I hope Harry Wilson's tackle isn't viewing this thread because if he is we'll soon be asked:-

'What's you're favourite unlistenable garbage?'. :facepalm:

:lolol:
 


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