[Football] Sweet Caroline - why?

[Skaville]

Surely the belter that is Forever in blue jeans is a potential terrace classic

 

[trueblue]

Can't stand it, but there we go. Big lulls all the way through that have people shuffling about mumbling and just don't connect with it in any way as a football song. Maybe Three Lions just resonates more with some people because of the memories but life moves on.

 

[zefarelly]

If I want music I go to gigs.

 

[Codner pharmaceuticals]

I like it make it the new National Anthem. It is a Beautiful Noise.

 

[GT49er]

It was an OK song, but I've grown to hate it - every karaoki, every open mic, and every not-very-good pub band, all of them never fail to trot it out, often badly, with everyone joining in with enthusiastic "Ba ba ba's". Yuk - I've had more than enough of it!

 

[sydney]

easy to sing along to ....slow build up and chorus that you can all shout and jump around to .....what more could you want..?

 

[Justice]

Love the clip of TB bellowing it out with Knockhaert in night club somewhere.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

If I want music I go to gigs.

Whereas I ask Alexa nicely.

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

Love the clip of TB bellowing it out with Knockhaert in night club somewhere.

That song will always remind me of that day and Knockaert in particular. Not a massive fan of the tune but it always makes me smile purely because of that.

And it's a better tune than the Yaya/Kolo one Knocky randomly tried to get everyone signing!

 

[pasty]

How Neil Diamond's Sweet Caroline became an accidental football anthem

 

[Pavilionaire]

If you want tunes that are ideally suited to terrace chants Neil Diamond's back catalogue is a veritable goldmine.

A club anthem sung to the 'Song Sung Blue' tune would be awesome, especially as it has a repeating canon.

 

[Brovion]

Surely even those who hate it must admit it's better than 'Yes sir, I can boogie'

 

[Super Steve Earle]

Creepy song written about a 12 year old girl.

Actually it was written about Diamond's wife Marcia. He just used Caroline's name as it fitted the song better, so not creepy at all.

 

[jabba]

From BBC web site

But the first hint of its potential as a sporting crowd-pleaser came in the late 1990s when it was played during a Boston Red Sox baseball game for an employee who had named her newborn Caroline.

The Red Sox decided it was good luck, and started playing it every week from 2003. In 2013, the singer pledged all future royalties from the tune to a charity supporting victims of the Boston Marathon bombing.

 

[Questions]

Why has this become an England Anthem?

Personally I hope we follow Cricket's example and walk out on to the field to...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sERiPuOQyvo

Wouldn't it be great to have a full house belting this out, probably would give us a 2 goal lead.

That song reminds me of public school, rugby playing, posh kids

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

It does seem a strange choice for England fans.
I wouldn't actually sing it because it reminds me of reading fans and it was always a bit cringey when they sang it.

I got the impression it was something the FA was trying to get the fans to sing to stop any"ten German bombers"songs starting up which would affect the world cup bid so they played sweet Caroline through the tannoy to get the fans to sing along too.
ITV banging on about the song last night made me even more suspicious that it was an official FA directive of creating an image.
I used to think the band did the same thing of controlling the narrative of the chants when the FA banned some of the old ones.

Footballers themselves seem to love the song as we have seen here at Brighton and Southgate mentioned last night that it's a favourite of the players in the England camp which may be why it was picked to be played on the tannoy.

I read somewhere that villa fans sang it recently so maybe a few villa fans started it for grealish.

However it started I think it's a bit odd for fans to sing But the fans that are singing it seem to enjoy it and the players like it so if it helps then it can't be a bad thing.

Could be worse...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCpavz0uL88

 

[marcos3263]

Diamond is a fairly straight forward songwriter, there aren't hidden allegories or metaphors. He basically wrote a song for his wife Marcia but couldn't get Marcia to rhyme. He wrote it when Caroline Kennedy was just 7, it didn't get recorded and released till she was 12, Caroline is 3 syllables so worked - that is about the extent of it.

Couldn't get Marcia to rhyme?

Marcia, I really Fancy ya....

Marcia, do you drive a Tractor?

Marcia, want a bowl of pasta?

perhaps Im a genius and perhaps this song writing lark is a easy. Im writing a song for when we win Sunday - Ill be RICH

 

[BN9 BHA]

An American who has probaly never been to a Football match singing about some bint as opposed to William Blake and Edward Elgar? You can't be English...

Jerusalem a song about a place nowhere near England

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Couldn't get Marcia to rhyme?

Marcia, I really Fancy ya....

Marcia, do you drive a Tractor?

Marcia, want a bowl of pasta?

perhaps Im a genius and perhaps this song writing lark is a easy. Im writing a song for when we win Sunday - Ill be RICH

Mar See Uh

Not Mar Seeya

or Mar Seeyer

Or Mar Seeya (you did that one earlier)

If you want to make a few bob as a lyricist, take a leaf out of the Book of Geezer, who wrote this unforgettable rhyming couplet:

Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses

(War Pigs by Black Sabbath, in case you're desperate for a listen) :thumbs:

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Whereas I ask Alexa nicely.

Ask Alexa if It’s coming home.