Sven is a twat.

[Stumpy Tim]

Ponderos is fecking pony. in terms of youngsters there is only really A.Cole, Fabergas, Anelka and Toure. Good yes, but they don't make Wenger a genius.

Is this the Senderos who has played in 9 of the 10 games in the Champions League where Arsenal haven't conceded a goal? Yep, he must be rubbish

 

[enigma]

Now you're talking sense. Mind you I try not to agree with you to much, Looney seems to think we are an item because we don't want to go around smashing gays up.

Thats cos Looney is a lonely, bitter geek with no friends who is stuck in a time warp.

 

[Les Biehn]

Is this the Senderos who has played in 9 of the 10 games in the Champions League where Arsenal haven't conceded a goal? Yep, he must be rubbish

Kevin Kilbane has played in the Champions League, doesn't mean he is good.

 

[Les Biehn]

Doesn't really send out the best signal does it, you can score a shit load of goals in the prem but when it comes to the world cup you're f***ed because Sven loves Wenger.

 

[Scoffers]

Well , Sir Alf won in part because the players he picked, he picked for a reason, for example Jack Charlton wasnt the best player in his position, but he fitted what Alf needed, and so maybe, just maybe, there is some similar thoughts going in to Sven's selection. I bloody well hope so.

 

[Stumpy Tim]

Kevin Kilbane has played in the Champions League, doesn't mean he is good.

Kevin Kilbane wasn't an integral part of a defence that went 810 minutes without conceding - against teams like Real Madrid & Juventus. The only game he missed was Valencia away when Arsenal were at their least convincing defensively. A poor comparison really

 

[Les Biehn]

Kevin Kilbane wasn't an integral part of a defence that went 810 minutes without conceding - against teams like Real Madrid & Juventus. The only game he missed was Valencia away when Arsenal were at their least convincing defensively. A poor comparison really

But it does make the point that every dog has his day, even in the Champions league. He is improving but Arsenal had a 5 man midfield and he was playing alongside Toure, one of the best centre backs in the world.

 

[Easy 10]

Well , Sir Alf won in part because the players he picked, he picked for a reason, for example Jack Charlton wasnt the best player in his position, but he fitted what Alf needed, and so maybe, just maybe, there is some similar thoughts going in to Sven's selection. I bloody well hope so.

I'd wager that Sir Alf had PROBABLY seen Jack Charlton play a few times before deciding to play him in a World Cup though, and so knew what he was getting with him. Just a hunch, like.

Darren Bent isn't the best player in his position either, but as everyone else decent is injured right now, he might have been worth taking along. Just in case.
I'd have thought so anyway.

 

[Les Biehn]

I am just flabberghasted that anyone thinks what Sven has done is a good idea, it defies any sort of logic. He's a mucking fuppet.

 

[Scoffers]

Well, I'm pleased that he picked Walcott, it's a gamble, of course, but then none of the other nations know anything about him either. If he comes on a wins a game for us, Sven will become a sage, if he doesnt play, or had no effect, he'll get slammed hard.

Stop fecking moaning about Sven this and Sven that, he is the manager and we have to live with it. Sven is not perfect, but he has a pretty good record over all.

 

[Willow]

I am just flabberghasted that anyone thinks what Sven has done is a good idea, it defies any sort of logic. He's a mucking fuppet.

Les, was it you I saw on another thread banging on about what a great player Chris McPhee is?

I think Sven has made a great decision to take young Theo. Everyone used to complain about how cautious Sven is, then when he makes a bold gamble on an exciting young talent he is people still complain!

Bent may be a more polished, accomplished striker, but no way is he good enough to push us on to the final. Theo? Who knows? IT'S CALLED A GAMBLE.

 

[Scoffers]

Les, was it you I saw on another thread banging on about what a great player Chris McPhee is?

I think Sven has made a great decision to take young Theo. Everyone used to complain about how cautious Sven is, then when he makes a bold gamble on an exciting young talent he is people still complain!

Bent may be a more polished, accomplished striker, but no way is he good enough to push us on to the final. Theo? Who knows? IT'S CALLED A GAMBLE.

With you bud, with you

 

[Pavilionaire]

Fine, but when you take a big gamble lay some of it off, i.e. pick a 5th striker.

 

[sneakychef]

It would be a gamble to take him if we had strikers fit ahead of him. Picking someone who Arsene Wenger does not feel is ready for even a sub appearance in the premiership when, if injuries are not healed would have to start if we played two up front, is more than a little risky.

Yes the other countries know nothing about him, that's because we know nothing about him. Who knows how this kind of call up is going to effect him? Something like this could ruin his career almost as much as it could make it.

 

[Uncle Buck]

Vassell did have a habit of scoring for England but that was a long time ago. I dont think he has ever scored as many goals as Bent has this season, and he doesnt even set up that many. Apart from pace, and lets face it Bent is quick enough, Vassell doesnt offer more than Bent in any other department.

Vassell has not really been picked since he missed that penalty.

Bent is fast, but there is something with his game that leaves him a bit short in international football, just not surprised that he has not been considered.

 

[Les Biehn]

Les, was it you I saw on another thread banging on about what a great player Chris McPhee is?

I think Sven has made a great decision to take young Theo. Everyone used to complain about how cautious Sven is, then when he makes a bold gamble on an exciting young talent he is people still complain!

Bent may be a more polished, accomplished striker, but no way is he good enough to push us on to the final. Theo? Who knows? IT'S CALLED A GAMBLE.

McPhee is a ledg! I never said he was a great player, I said I love him.

Stupid decision does not equal bold gamble. A bold gamble on an exciting young talent is taking Lennon. A stupid decision leaving us devoid of an experienced, back up striker with one who has not even played premiership football is taking Walcott.

 

[Scoffers]

Fine, but when you take a big gamble lay some of it off, i.e. pick a 5th striker.

Now that does seem to make sense

 

[Scoffers]

Vassell has not really been picked since he missed that penalty.

Bent is fast, but there is something with his game that leaves him a bit short in international football, just not surprised that he has not been considered.

Not convinced by either of them, so dont mind them not being included as such

 

[Les Biehn]

Vassell has not really been picked since he missed that penalty.

Bent is fast, but there is something with his game that leaves him a bit short in international football, just not surprised that he has not been considered.

People keep moaning that people can't judge Hargreaves because he has hardly played for England and that others haven't seen him play in the league. Well Bent has only had one chance and having seen him in the league he looks bloody good. Quick, strong, can head and finish. Perhaps he just needed a chance.

 

[Les Biehn]

Fine, but when you take a big gamble lay some of it off, i.e. pick a 5th striker.

Very good and concise point.