Pretty pink fairy
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- Jan 30, 2008
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so ,when i put up a thread about the swindon mob and get condemned for it in some quarters, i ask myself ,why are we still going over the bones of this non event
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steward 433
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so ,when i put up a thread about the swindon mob and get condemned for it in some quarters, i ask myself ,why are we still going over the bones of this non event
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maffew
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Feck knows. I dont think the chap can complain too much pitch encroachment for "going to give Kerry a hug for ten years service". How were the stewards meant to know that they might have been gingerists with knives or something. I reckon a group pitch invasion for promotion or reaching a play offs final in high spirits is accestable but random individuals charging on on their todd - they should be rugby tackled, shackled, and marched off with fairly minimal damage for the players own safety
The tall one
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- Jan 2, 2007
- 197
I have read the last 16 pages re this non event of a situation.
The crux of the situation is that the guy ran onto the pitch dispite a number of warnings before and during the game re this. Also he did not notice the ground regulations pinned to the outside of each turnstile.
I believe that the steward doing what he did in fact prevented a number of other spectators running onto the pitch and causing a major incident. Stewards are trained to deal with pitch encroachers. If posters are saying that the steward is over the top, they can not have seen Door Supervisors working the doors at clubs and pubs at the weekend. Stewards cannot assume that the the pitch encroacher was just going to congratulate Kerry Mayo on his service to the club.
If we had won promorion then the situation may have been dealt with differently.
The crux of the situation is that the guy ran onto the pitch dispite a number of warnings before and during the game re this. Also he did not notice the ground regulations pinned to the outside of each turnstile.
I believe that the steward doing what he did in fact prevented a number of other spectators running onto the pitch and causing a major incident. Stewards are trained to deal with pitch encroachers. If posters are saying that the steward is over the top, they can not have seen Door Supervisors working the doors at clubs and pubs at the weekend. Stewards cannot assume that the the pitch encroacher was just going to congratulate Kerry Mayo on his service to the club.
If we had won promorion then the situation may have been dealt with differently.
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Anything remotely interesting in here before I go wasting more of my working day trawling through 17 pages?
Storer68
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It's against the law - end of story. Stewards are perfectly within their rights, indeed they are required to by law, to apprehend anyone who eneters the playing area.
The Football Offences Act 1991 focuses on three offences of disorderly behaviour:
Throwing missiles towards the pitch or spectators.
Taking part in indecent or racist chanting.
Going on the pitch or its surrounds without lawful authority.
Football (Offences) Act 1991
1991 CHAPTER 19
An Act to make further provision with respect to disorderly conduct by persons attending football matches; and for connected purposes.
[27th June 1991]
Be it enacted by the Queen’s most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:—
1 Designated football matches (1) In this Act a “designated football match” means an association football match designated, or of a description designated, for the purposes of this Act by order of the Secretary of State.
Any such order shall be made by statutory instrument which shall be subject to annulment in pursuance of a resolution of either House of Parliament.
(2) References in this Act to things done at a designated football match include anything done at the ground—
(a) within the period beginning two hours before the start of the match or (if earlier) two hours before the time at which it is advertised to start and ending one hour after the end of the match; or
(b) where the match is advertised to start at a particular time on a particular day but does not take place on that day, within the period beginning two hours before and ending one hour after the advertised starting time.
2 Throwing of missiles It is an offence for a person at a designated football match to throw anything at or towards—
(a) the playing area, or any area adjacent to the playing area to which spectators are not generally admitted, or
(b) any area in which spectators or other persons are or may be present,
without lawful authority or lawful excuse (which shall be for him to prove).
3 Indecent or racialist chanting (1) It is an offence to take part at a designated football match in chanting of an indecent or racialist nature.
(2) For this purpose—
(a) “chanting” means the repeated uttering of any words or sounds in concert with one or more others; and
(b) “of a racialist nature” means consisting of or including matter which is threatening, abusive or insulting to a person by reason of his colour, race, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origins.
4 Going onto the playing area It is an offence for a person at a designated football match to go onto the playing area, or any area adjacent to the playing area to which spectators are not generally admitted, without lawful authority or lawful excuse (which shall be for him to prove).
The Football Offences Act 1991 focuses on three offences of disorderly behaviour:
Throwing missiles towards the pitch or spectators.
Taking part in indecent or racist chanting.
Going on the pitch or its surrounds without lawful authority.
Football (Offences) Act 1991
1991 CHAPTER 19
An Act to make further provision with respect to disorderly conduct by persons attending football matches; and for connected purposes.
[27th June 1991]
Be it enacted by the Queen’s most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:—
1 Designated football matches (1) In this Act a “designated football match” means an association football match designated, or of a description designated, for the purposes of this Act by order of the Secretary of State.
Any such order shall be made by statutory instrument which shall be subject to annulment in pursuance of a resolution of either House of Parliament.
(2) References in this Act to things done at a designated football match include anything done at the ground—
(a) within the period beginning two hours before the start of the match or (if earlier) two hours before the time at which it is advertised to start and ending one hour after the end of the match; or
(b) where the match is advertised to start at a particular time on a particular day but does not take place on that day, within the period beginning two hours before and ending one hour after the advertised starting time.
2 Throwing of missiles It is an offence for a person at a designated football match to throw anything at or towards—
(a) the playing area, or any area adjacent to the playing area to which spectators are not generally admitted, or
(b) any area in which spectators or other persons are or may be present,
without lawful authority or lawful excuse (which shall be for him to prove).
3 Indecent or racialist chanting (1) It is an offence to take part at a designated football match in chanting of an indecent or racialist nature.
(2) For this purpose—
(a) “chanting” means the repeated uttering of any words or sounds in concert with one or more others; and
(b) “of a racialist nature” means consisting of or including matter which is threatening, abusive or insulting to a person by reason of his colour, race, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origins.
4 Going onto the playing area It is an offence for a person at a designated football match to go onto the playing area, or any area adjacent to the playing area to which spectators are not generally admitted, without lawful authority or lawful excuse (which shall be for him to prove).
SussexHoop
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- Dec 7, 2003
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The incident against Stoke didn't happen at Loftus Road, it was at the Britannia which is why we couldn't understand how Stoke got away with it.
Stewarding of the away fans at Loftus Road is somewhat inconsistent. I've seen them pile in when away fans jump over the wall when they score, I've seen them stand there and do nothing when Cardiff fans ran on to the pitch celebrating. Wonder why!
Peter Grummit
Well-known member
I've spent 30 minutes of my life reading this thread and concluded that
1. People on NSC will find reason to argue about anything for any reason if they are bored enough.
2. "Steward 433" is probably the most smug and unpleasant poster I have come across in 5 years on this Board. But I suspect he won't mind that comment as it gives him something to respond to. What he would really dislike is to be ignored.
PG
1. People on NSC will find reason to argue about anything for any reason if they are bored enough.
2. "Steward 433" is probably the most smug and unpleasant poster I have come across in 5 years on this Board. But I suspect he won't mind that comment as it gives him something to respond to. What he would really dislike is to be ignored.
PG
steward 433
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I don't mind if people ignore me it's their perogative.
If you think i am smug and unpleasant then i would like to know why?
you are a steward looking after h/j block
you impose a no standing policy and back it up with scare stories about league sanctions( never used in the history of all seater stadia)that would not even frighten a 5 year old.
you,despite your dedication to the club and its no standing policy,make pathetic excuses that club employees standing "aint my fault/responsibility/job/concern/problem"and any other pathetic excuse you can think of.
you,unlike most of your fellow stewards on here,make plain that you are a paid employee of the club,only problem is most of your supporters on this thread are your fellow stewards who hid that fact.
you impose a no standing policy and back it up with scare stories about league sanctions( never used in the history of all seater stadia)that would not even frighten a 5 year old.
you,despite your dedication to the club and its no standing policy,make pathetic excuses that club employees standing "aint my fault/responsibility/job/concern/problem"and any other pathetic excuse you can think of.
you,unlike most of your fellow stewards on here,make plain that you are a paid employee of the club,only problem is most of your supporters on this thread are your fellow stewards who hid that fact.
Zesh Rehman
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The fans were told not to go on the pitch, what was he expecting, and then his gobby dad started going of on one, thats why it all happened.
steward 433
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The only other steward who has backed me up on this thread has admitted he is a steward the other stewards who i know post on NSC have not posted on this thread.
liverpool manure chelskum newcastle man city tottingham arsenal and most of the prem league fans stand all game every game.
how come these F.A and F.L. sanctions are never applied to them?
even if they had no NO STANDING POLICE at the grounds they must see it week in week out on sky and match of the day like we do
how come these F.A and F.L. sanctions are never applied to them?
even if they had no NO STANDING POLICE at the grounds they must see it week in week out on sky and match of the day like we do
NMH
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The tall one
Banned
- Jan 2, 2007
- 197
You state in your post that supporters stand at most premiership matches on a weekly basis. Do you have photographic and video evidence to back this up. You cannot make assumptions without evidence.
Points can be deducted. i remember some time last season when man utd or (manure) as you so nicely put it were repremanded for having supporters that stood at home matches.
Now unless i am mistaken Withdean is all seater which means whether you like it or not you should sit down. Just because supporters at other grounds may stand up does mean that we have to follow suit.
In fact i think that that you would be surprised to hear that most supporters at the withdean prefer to sit on their seats.
Points can be deducted. i remember some time last season when man utd or (manure) as you so nicely put it were repremanded for having supporters that stood at home matches.
Now unless i am mistaken Withdean is all seater which means whether you like it or not you should sit down. Just because supporters at other grounds may stand up does mean that we have to follow suit.
In fact i think that that you would be surprised to hear that most supporters at the withdean prefer to sit on their seats.
Barrel of Fun
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Are you a steward 'The Tall One'?
The tall one
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- Jan 2, 2007
- 197
I do know steward 433.
Barrel of Fun
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Barrel of Fun
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Ah ha. Seeing as we are asking for evidence. Do you have any evidence that the majority of people at Withdean wish to stay seated? That is very debateable. Personally, I would much rather stand and I am sure many people would share that view.
Something that is not debateable is that the majority of those missing from Withdean prefer to stand.
Out of interest, why are the away fans allowed to stand? :goingoveroldground:
Something that is not debateable is that the majority of those missing from Withdean prefer to stand.
Out of interest, why are the away fans allowed to stand? :goingoveroldground: