[Albion] Stand or Fall

[Han Solo]

Is it a fact that TB paid Matt Lorenzo to make the film? I always just assumed it was an independent movie of a story well worthy of telling rather than the club commissioned it

Would be odd otherwise wouldn't it, with the club promoting it and stuff?

Means its not a documentary though. A club funded movie about the club itself is never a documentary.

Sounds like a great promotional/love movie though and can't wait to see it tbh.

 

[AK74]

Matt has been paid by Tony to make the film

He was a good choice, as his body of work is excellent:

General 1 — Privacy Notice

www.matthewlorenzo.com

I also enjoyed your appearance on camera, @Lenny Rider.

 

[ChickenDipper]

He was a good choice, as his body of work is excellent:

General 1 — Privacy Notice

www.matthewlorenzo.com

I also enjoyed your appearance on camera, @Lenny Rider.

Harty’s line ‘This does not end here’ was simply lovely. A true hero of the club.

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

Off to see it tonight - looking forward to it!

 

[dolphins]

Superb from start to finish, and the spontaneous round of applause as the closing credits rolled at the end of today's 3pm screening was nothing less than Stand or Fall deserved.

The amount of dust in the room was chronic, however.

I thought I might complain as it must've been coming through the aircon ducts heavily at key moments such as the Shoreham Air Show disaster and numerous other key moments in our story.

 

[Stato]

Means its not a documentary though. A club funded movie about the club itself is never a documentary.

A "documentary" is just a non-fiction film. The definition says nothing about funding or author p.o.v. You could argue that it's funding model means that it can't be an independent reflection of objective reality, but that's an argument you can make about any non fiction piece to some degree or other and it wouldn't stop it being a documentary.

The UK Government funded documentaries for a decade or two through the GPO's Crown Films Unit in the 1940s and 50s. They were generally films about things that concerned the UK government. Some of them were openly propogandist. That didn't stop them being documentaries. One won the Oscar for the best documentary. British schoolchildren throughout the 1970s were often 'treated' to film days on the last day of term. This generally involved some low rent family film, (I remember seeing Tommy Steele in 'The Happiest Millionaire' about a decade after it's release). However the main feature was nearly always supported by a bunch of documentaries that told you how things were manufactured and they were virtually always made by the companies that did the manufacturing. http://www.screenonline.org.uk/film/id/964488/index.html

 

[Stato]

Hardly any mention of Micky Adams in the film neither yet he turned us back around completely on the playing side, is there bad blood with him as well?

Both of Micky's periods precede Bloom becoming chairman, so I would be surprised. If I recall correctly, they spoke of the difficulty of retaining good managers whilst at Withdean and mentioned Micky, along with Peter Taylor and Coppell.

 

[stewart12]

Hardly any mention of Micky Adams in the film neither yet he turned us back around completely on the playing side, is there bad blood with him as well?

He was also not part of the Withdean Years DVD. He was mentioned of course but was not interviewed at all- think he may have been the only manager who didn't feature on screen

 

[Stato]

He was also not part of the Withdean Years DVD. He was mentioned of course but was not interviewed at all- think he may have been the only manager who didn't feature on screen

He said nice things about us and Bloom when Naylor interviewed him last year: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/4189739/2023/02/17/micky-adams-brighton-fulham/

 

[Lenny Rider]

He was a good choice, as his body of work is excellent:

General 1 — Privacy Notice

www.matthewlorenzo.com

I also enjoyed your appearance on camera, @Lenny Rider.

Thank you old boy

The Bellotti Junior kidnap threat thankfully never made the cut

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

British schoolchildren throughout the 1970s were often 'treated' to film days on the last day of term. This generally involved some low rent family film, (I remember seeing Tommy Steele in 'The Happiest Millionaire' about a decade after it's release). However the main feature was nearly always supported by a bunch of documentaries that told you how things were manufactured and they were virtually always made by the companies that did the manufacturing. http://www.screenonline.org.uk/film/id/964488/index.html

Don't know what it's like now, but the "let's watch a random film rather than anything productive" thing went on at least into the 00s.

Anyway, obligatory Simpsons reference.

 

[Lenny Rider]

Both of Micky's periods precede Bloom becoming chairman, so I would be surprised. If I recall correctly, they spoke of the difficulty of retaining good managers whilst at Withdean and mentioned Micky, along with Peter Taylor and Coppell.

We all wanted Micky Mk 2 to suceeed, unfortunately when it didn’t that‘s when Tony probably decided it was time for him to come off the bench and replace Dick.

Russell Slade kept us up on the Saturday and Dick reluctantly tendered his resignation at the beginning of the board meeting on the Monday afternoon. Slade was a great ‘firefighter’ but it was apparent the next manager at the Withdean would have been the one who would hopefully move us to the Amex, so with Tony financing the project he obviously wanted to be the Chairman at the same time.

Personally I, like many others, would have loved to have actually seen the passing of the baton at the Spurs game in July 2011, but only one man was paying for it all

 

[Alan Cundle]

Wanted to go tonight, as just found out I am now free, but they've closed the online tickets for tonight - only selling for Tuesday? I know it's not sold out. Presumably can't buy on door, anybody got a spare?!

 

[portlock seagull]

Wanted to go tonight, as just found out I am now free, but they've closed the online tickets for tonight - only selling for Tuesday? I know it's not sold out. Presumably can't buy on door, anybody got a spare?!

Modern Life eh?!

 

[Lenny Rider]

Wanted to go tonight, as just found out I am now free, but they've closed the online tickets for tonight - only selling for Tuesday? I know it's not sold out. Presumably can't buy on door, anybody got a spare?!

Just turn up old boy, I’m sure they can find an extra seat if necessary

 

[Alan Cundle]

Just turn up old boy, I’m sure they can find an extra seat if necessary

The fuckers wouldn't let me in. There were 200 spare seats, I wanted to buy a ticket and there was no way that I could. Even if I bought a ticket for tomorrow in front of them on my phone , it would not have scanned so they couldn't let me in.

Don't you just love modern tech....

 

[Lenny Rider]

The fuckers wouldn't let me in. There were 200 spare seats, I wanted to buy a ticket and there was no way that I could. Even if I bought a ticket for tomorrow in front of them on my phone , it would not have scanned so they couldn't let me in.

Don't you just love modern tech....

I sometimes wonder given certain aspects of 21st century BHAFC you have to question whether we actually ‘won’? (Like it says in the film )

 

[SULLY COULDNT SHOOT]

Someone told me this week that TNT Sport have purchased the rights.

That's not much good if we really are acting like a world class team. TNT is only in the UK..... what about our legions of fans abroad and the soon to be new fans?!?

 

[ROSM]

That's not much good if we really are acting like a world class team. TNT is only in the UK..... what about our legions of fans abroad and the soon to be new fans?!?

TNT is part of discovery which is global and I think owned by warner bros

 

[SULLY COULDNT SHOOT]

TNT is part of discovery which is global and I think owned by warner bros

Yeah but..... haven't seen much coming from TNT to Discovery (I'm one of those legions) and it isn't the size of the big 4 (prime, netflix, disney, apple) so not sure it will get the coverage it should get. This is a story better than Wrexham because we know where Brighton went.... Wrexham can easily go tits up but finishing in Europe after 26th April 1997 is a story to melt any football heart!

(unless you support Palarse.....)