stadium delayed

[countrygull]

Thats a good point and this is my take on it, we MUST be in the championship by the time we play at Falmer, ideally by next season, this is MORE important now than ever, if we are languishing in the 3rd division when we start at Falmer I do not think we will average 12000, if we are playing in the championship that is possible, thats why DK got rid of DW in part.

We need people back, we need to show we are a supported club, we need 7000 + tomorrow for example. With the Credit Crunch and lack of money we cannot assume people will flock to Falmer and line up like they did at they end of Field of Dreams, in 2 years time. Lets be realistic, the momentum was with us when we went up to the championship with McGhee 4 years ago. Relegation and now 3 years in the backwater of 3rd division of football and we are in danger of having a malaise growing around the club and dust settling.

It is IMERATIVE we go up this season and not assume if we don't the rest of the division will roll over for us next season thats why Naylor was so wrong in his assumptions pre season that not going up this season could be a good thing.

With this risk and uncertainty and the lack of money I would imagine the commercial finance will be 50% tops with the other 50% having to come from the club , its directors and benefactors.

Well in fairness one imagines there will be some sort of input from grants, which will help a little. But I can't possibly imagine the directors having to find 50%. The bulk of the money one assumes will comes from the long term viability of the project in the eyes of the banks - the next 15 plus years. So whilst it may be desirable for us to go up this season, I wouldn't have thought it's the be all and end all. However, I do agree that the higher level at which we play - and the more seasons at which we play at that level - the better.

 

[Brixtaan]

I leave this thread with a heavy heart. Square 1 methinks.

 

[Dave the OAP]

I leave this thread with a heavy heart. Square 1 methinks.

panic thee not.

we are all just speculating using current economic stuff, that s all.

As said before, noone knows anything we are all speculating wildly

 

[Scotty Mac]

As said before, noone knows anything we are all speculating wildly

except for steward

 

[Uncle Buck]

except for steward

Is that Steward Perry?

 

[The Large One]

I'm seriously considering opening up a new business and wondered if you could give me some usefull tips on how to be successfull?

Sure. Nazi memorabilia and lubricants from around the world.

Should be a hoot in your universe.

 

[Spiros]

I really don't think Price Waterhouse Coopers would have taken it on if they had too many doubts as would they really risk ruining their reputation??

That really has to be one of the funniest things I have seen posted on here for quite some time. I've worked with PWC a number of times on a number of different projects (and was offered a job there about 10 years ago) and the VERY LAST thing they give a toss about is their reputation. Whether the project succeeds or dies on it's arse they will cream off their share and it's that they do care about.

They have been closely involved in a number of shambolic projects in both public and private sectors over the years but will instead only ever highlight those that have been successful. But then they are no different to any of the other 'big' consulting firms in that respect.

Come to think of it, if a company like PWC is involved we probably SHOULD be worried because of the large drain on project finances brought about by their very involvement.

 

[steward 433]

Good to have an inside view. Thanks Spiros

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

I would be suprised if they get commercial finance over 60% and if they did the rates would be a hell of a lot higher than last year so the incoming finances would have to be reassessed at a higher level, the other 40% could be benefactors and directors loans.

The fact is we simply do not need the Falmer Stadium for 3rd division football. It is geared for lower end premiership football. We do not need 22000 seats if we are in the 3rd division or even the championship. Albion have to be thinking lower end premiership / top end championship to make the figures work.

I think part of the reason DW was ousted is that whether people like it or not his style of football was driving people away. It was not attracting people, we were in the top half of the league and getting under 5000. That must have worried DK, MP and would not look good to the potential backers.

Make no mistake this season is vital in securing our futurel, we need to get promoted and we need people to start coming back.

 

[Easy 10]

What really needs to happen is the first spade going in the ground at Falmer, because that's the only thing that will inspire a bit more optimism.

Racist.

 

[Easy 10]

"The fact is we simply do not need the Falmer Stadium for 3rd division football...."

.......said the LDC councillor.

Falmer was NEVER dependent on what division we are competing in. Did Hull need the KC Stadium capacity when they were still playing at the arse-end of the League ? Of course not. But look at where they are now.

Now obviously we won't be filling Falmer if we're in the third division. But it will give us a PLATFORM to expand and grow as a club - something we can never, ever achieve at Withdean. I'm surprised at your remarks there Uncle S.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

No, we do not need the Falmer stadium if we are playing in the 3rd division. We need a stadium to play in but we do not need one with 22000 seats. I am ambitious , we are getting this stadium to be players in the championship and the premiership not in the fag end of English league football. Some people seem to be satisfied with us being also rans and no hopers, I am totally pissed off with it, I saw us for 4 seasons in the top division, I have seen us in the FA Cup Final. I want some more of that, not looking at Leyton Orient being one of the bigger fecking games of the season.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

I WANT f***ing PROMOTION THIS SEASON, IS THAT CLEAR

 

[Scotty Mac]

No, we do not need the Falmer stadium if we are playing in the 3rd division. We need a stadium to play in but we do not need one with 22000 seats. I am ambitious , we are getting this stadium to be players in the championship and the premiership not in the fag end of English league football. Some people seem to be satisfied with us being also rans and no hopers, I am totally pissed off with it, I saw us for 4 seasons in the top division, I have seen us in the FA Cup Final. I want some more of that, not looking at Leyton Orient being one of the bigger fecking games of the season.

and relax

 

[Easy 10]

No, we do not need the Falmer stadium if we are playing in the 3rd division. We need a stadium to play in but we do not need one with 22000 seats. I am ambitious , we are getting this stadium to be players in the championship and the premiership not in the fag end of English league football. Some people seem to be satisfied with us being also rans and no hopers, I am totally pissed off with it, I saw us for 4 seasons in the top division, I have seen us in the FA Cup Final. I want some more of that, not looking at Leyton Orient being one of the bigger fecking games of the season.

Hopefully the stadium will provide a means to an end though. Of course it would be preferable to be trotting out at Falmer for the first time as a Championship club, that goes without saying. But its not ESSENTIAL. The likes of Hull and Reading have proved that.

I think we will have to accept that Falmer doesn't automatically equate to instant success on the field. Once there, it may (and in all likelihood will) take a few years before we can comfortably establish ourselves as a decent Championship club. We will have the OPPORTUNITY to do that once we have the stadium - and thats something that is definitely not achievable right now.

We'll make progress at Falmer, but it ain't going to happen overnight.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Hopefully the stadium will provide a means to an end though. Of course it would be preferable to be trotting out at Falmer for the first time as a Championship club, that goes without saying. But its not ESSENTIAL. The likes of Hull and Reading have proved that.

I think we will have to accept that Falmer doesn't automatically equate to instant success on the field. Once there, it may (and in all likelihood will) take a few years before we can comfortably establish ourselves as a decent Championship club. We will have the OPPORTUNITY to do that once we have the stadium - and thats something that is definitely not achievable right now.

We'll make progress at Falmer, but it ain't going to happen overnight.

I disagree we have the maneger and the squad to get automatic promotion this season and then consolidate in the lower end of the champiosnhip next season ready for 2010/2011 that will add 4000 to season tickets at Falmer. I know Dick Knight is hugely ambitious and will be thinking the same way as me.

A few years to establish ourselves as a championship club ?, pah.

 

[Easy 10]

Also, everyone says look at Reading and Hull, but for every club like them there are more Huddersfield's, Leicester's, Darlington's, and Southampton's who have all gone BACKWARDS in new stadiums.

Good point, and very true. New stadiums are never a guarantee of success.
One things for sure though - we'll never stand a chance of progressing ANYWHERE while we're stuck playing at an athletics track. The third division with perhaps the odd daliance in the Championship now and then is the best we could ever possibly hope for.