Thunder Bolt
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[News] Southport Murderer Pleads Guilty
- Thread starter Chicken Run
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just stating a fact (although not very well tbf, as i did initially miss out the word ‘every ‘ lol )
portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
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I respect your opinion. Sincerely. Always interested in asking if you would be prepared to carry out the execution if so? You, yourself, and what that would then mean you'd have to bear. It's easy to say I'd pull the lever etc in heat of the moment, but would you actually be prepared to carry out: all the tasks pre, during and post? Then live with consequences of potential miscarriages, and - for certain - people constantly haranguing you and your family everyday, everywhere you go for the rest of your life? Perhaps even trying to kill you and yours because of your job? Historically I only know such persons regretted their roles, often took to drink and so forth. It takes all sorts, but I suspect in the moment, you simply wouldn't be able to. That's why it was extremely hard to find anyone even in the days before it was outlawed, and in far more conservative societies than we live in today. The vast majority of the population have never lived during a time of executions. It's incomprehensible CP will ever return in the UK. And that's for the sole reason it will never return. Not whilst we remain a christian sovereign democracy at least.
nevergoagain
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Well that depends on what you consider justice doesn't it ?. I don't consider him being able to live a life even if it is in captivity where he will still have access to all sorts of privileges justice. Apart from a "Thou shalt not kill" view, what reason would you have for keeping him alive ?
portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
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But justice has been served, in accordance with our law.
Could tell he was very frustrated
portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
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No, it's justice in the eyes of our law. None of us get to make knee-jerk reactive laws. That's called mob-rule which is inherently more dangerous and none of us want including you. Of course, if you'd prefer alternatives, you can always lobby your MP as per our democracy allows; or move to another country like Russia, the US, Iran, Saudi, China etc. But all have their 'downsides' to put it mildly.
portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
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I listened in full, and didn't sense that at all. Oh well!
nevergoagain
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Well obviously I'm not saying that we should just execute him here and now as I think you well know. I am very much in favour of CP for particular category cases but of course it would need to be introduced democratically as with any other law. I agree I don't think it will ever be introduced but that doesn't stop me from thinking that is wrong. Anyway I'm not going to debate that on this thread any more as it detracts from the subject and that's not what I want to do.
- Apr 5, 2014
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I'm an in no doubt that may crimes, such as this, are worthy of death. But I would never support state sponsored murder. Which is basically what capital punishment is.
oldboyroy
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Hope he Rots in hell
- Aug 7, 2003
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It’s a sad fact that some Christians will advocate that, even in a case like this, people must forgive the sins of others in order for God to forgive them their sins.
CP is too good for him, far too quick.
Withdean11
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It pains me that he will wake up and breathe air tomorrow. I’m fully in favour of the death penalty for this kind of evil.
Had it been my kids I’d be doing everything in my power to get to him myself.
I sincerely hope that someone ‘deals with him’ in prison, and would hope that person escapes any punishment for doing so.
Had it been my kids I’d be doing everything in my power to get to him myself.
I sincerely hope that someone ‘deals with him’ in prison, and would hope that person escapes any punishment for doing so.
Here’s hoping…..
Jackthelad
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- Mar 31, 2010
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I would like him to have only solitary confinement. His food to be the bare basics and no perks whatsoever. Never let him outside or see daylight. No light in his room just darkness until he dies. That would be worse than death.
portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
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Nothing sad about that. Just different beliefs. And something quite admirable if you can forgive
I was watching it on the BBC News channel, his body language did smack to me of ‘I’d like to do a lot more but I can’t and these are the reasons why’………he seemingly racked everything up as high as he could before making minimal mandatory reductions for age, guilty plea etc. Thought he summed up an incredibly difficult situation pretty well and as sensitively as he could have done.
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Judge is operating within the legal guidelines?
- Aug 7, 2003
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We’ll have to beg to differ on that one.
portlock seagull
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I couldn’t but imagine if you could forgive and live without the anger because of a faith? That is something quite admirable.