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Southern Rail STRIKE details



pb21

Well-known member
Apr 23, 2010
6,687
Chip-Tick, Shoulder-Tick, Blame Tories-Tick.

It’s not really a chip on the shoulder thing though is it?

Tory thinking is along the lines of if doing A over B increases the obvious and immediate financial profit then A is better.
 








Diablo

Well-known member
Sep 22, 2014
4,385
lewes
It's in the operation of trains part, that is the key the RMT are conceding the control of the doors to the driver if it is deemed to be a safe and acceptable way of working

It was not that long ago passengers were deemed able to open and close doors for themselves!!! I for one would be happy to manually open the door although these days it only entails pushing a button I assume.
 


Napper

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
24,452
Sussex
What's happening with trains for tomorrow

Don't suppose any danger of a press release from someone with some info for the customers is there ?
 






Diablo

Well-known member
Sep 22, 2014
4,385
lewes
What strikes ? Adding to the misery suggests something else is causing your misery so why don't you highlight that as well ?

Well I would have thought that you who`ve been rattling on about it would agree that the train service from the south (I`m interested in Eastbourne to London line) is piss poor and Striking does not help us travellers in the least as many trains are cancelled. Get back working with no threats of striking and travel service would improve...Don`t you agree ??
 


pb21

Well-known member
Apr 23, 2010
6,687
Well I would have thought that you who`ve been rattling on about it would agree that the train service from the south (I`m interested in Eastbourne to London line) is piss poor and Striking does not help us travellers in the least as many trains are cancelled. Get back working with no threats of striking and travel service would improve...Don`t you agree ??

Yeah you train plebs should know your place so I can get my train to London on time, and while your at it you can lick my shoes clean too.
 




Ernest

Stupid IDIOT
Nov 8, 2003
42,748
LOONEY BIN
Well I would have thought that you who`ve been rattling on about it would agree that the train service from the south (I`m interested in Eastbourne to London line) is piss poor and Striking does not help us travellers in the least as many trains are cancelled. Get back working with no threats of striking and travel service would improve...Don`t you agree ??

There isn't any strike so must be another reason, I wonder if it might be that SASTA are completely USELESS at running their service ?
 


Aug 11, 2003
2,734
The Open Market
Well I would have thought that you who`ve been rattling on about it would agree that the train service from the south (I`m interested in Eastbourne to London line) is piss poor and Striking does not help us travellers in the least as many trains are cancelled. Get back working with no threats of striking and travel service would improve...Don`t you agree ??

What strike?

There have been seven days of strikes this year, which led to disruption on those days, and is irritating. There has, however, been a full-blown programme of worsening cancellations, instigated by GTR, which are nothing to do with strikes, sickness or any industrial action, even though they'd love you to gullibly believe that.

So in answer to your question - no, travel service would not improve.
 






Diablo

Well-known member
Sep 22, 2014
4,385
lewes
Yeah you train plebs should know your place so I can get my train to London on time, and while your at it you can lick my shoes clean too.

Calling your post childish would be an insult to children............So you abuse your paying customers as you do your employers...Without Customers or Employers you may well struggle.....
 


Diablo

Well-known member
Sep 22, 2014
4,385
lewes
There isn't any strike so must be another reason, I wonder if it might be that SASTA are completely USELESS at running their service ?

Contrary to what you might believe I think......I do believe that the railway workers/Union are only part of the problem...I agree with you that heads need banging together and compromise is needed from both sides...However SASTA do not as far as I know come on NSC so I can`t have a go at them.
 








Aug 11, 2003
2,734
The Open Market
Contrary to what you might believe I think......I do believe that the railway workers/Union are only part of the problem...I agree with you that heads need banging together and compromise is needed from both sides...However SASTA do not as far as I know come on NSC so I can`t have a go at them.

In terms of disruption through industrial action / strikes, the RMT must take a certain amount of responsibility. I believe that if they must indulge in industrial action, they are far more imaginative in their methods. Strikes are the ultimate - the 'nuclear option'. There are others ways of showing their displeasure. One suggestion I have is to have the staff work as normal, but not collect fares / allow people through permanently open platform gates. I do understand that may piss season ticket holders off, but it wouldn't exactly be every day. And the only people missing out are the franchise holders.

However, regarding the arbitrary cancelling of trains over the past few months, that is almost entirely down to SASTA, in the hope of getting the public onside by blaming the unions. How do we know? The government's top civil servants within the DfT said so at a public meeting.

You don't cancel tens of thousands of trains over several months because of seven days' disruption. Unless you're SASTA. Linking the dispute to the cancellations is exactly what the government and GTR want you to think.
 












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