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Lenny Rider

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Sep 15, 2010
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I would have thought it was inappropriate for a funeral director to repeat something that happened at a crematorium, on a public football forum. Doesn’t confidentiality come into it?

I didn’t name names, it was just an observation on something which was totally uncalled for in the grand scheme of things.

But judging by some of the reactions on here, we are already a long way down a rocky road.

But just hypothetically, sadly we all know dear old Roy Chuter took his own life, I was the Celebrant at his funeral on the day, and opened up with exactly the same greeting, good afternoon Ladies and Gentlemen, if a non binary person had collared me, the overwhelming majority on here would have said given the circumstances of the occasion ‘they’ were wrong to raise such a trivial issue.

I turned 57 on Tuesday, I’m glad I’m not 27 that’s for certain 👍
 




Paulie Gualtieri

Bada Bing
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May 8, 2018
10,639
Picture the scene, Worthing Crematorium post lockdown, attendance restrictions lifted, and one of my favourite funeral celebrants opens our service with,
"Good afternoon Lades and Gentleman, and thank you for attending this service of celebration for the late...…"

After the service has finished, an individual approached the Celebrant and said "I was deeply offended by the term Ladies and Gentleman as I'm non binary and don't identify as either"

Some people need to get out more :ffsparr:

“Imagine how awful this would have been if today was about you” would have been my response


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The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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I’d have just said “well, today isn’t about you so goodbye”.
Time and a place.
Having said that, the world is changing in this respect and mostly for the better.
However, I think the OP is lying and shit stirring. So I regret posting now.
What a confused mess I have become.
 
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clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,877
I didn’t name names, it was just an observation on something which was totally uncalled for in the grand scheme of things.

But judging by some of the reactions on here, we are already a long way down a rocky road.

But just hypothetically, sadly we all know dear old Roy Chuter took his own life, I was the Celebrant at his funeral on the day, and opened up with exactly the same greeting, good afternoon Ladies and Gentlemen, if a non binary person had collared me, the overwhelming majority on here would have said given the circumstances of the occasion ‘they’ were wrong to raise such a trivial issue.

I turned 57 on Tuesday, I’m glad I’m not 27 that’s for certain [emoji106]
Why you are bringing that into ?

Creating a complety hypothetical situation (that didn't happen) to back up another of your click bait posts.

Take a break.

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Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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Personally, if someone prefers be referred to as they 'they' I'm happy to do that. A friend told me recently his daughter was trans and I immediately adopted a change of terms.

Life is too short.

Having initially bought into the anti woke thing I find that there do seem to be a lot of cry babies who are upset that they can't either be nasty about people anymore, or are just unwilling to address their own bias.
 




Washie

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Jun 20, 2011
6,055
Eastbourne
The amount of snowflakes on this thread is laughable. Imagine getting offended because someone doesn't include themselves as a lady or a gentleman.
 


maltaseagull

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Feb 25, 2009
13,364
Zabbar- Malta
So glad I was born in the early Sixties. Times were different then, a lot of things needed to change, for the betterment of society, but I fear we're now catering for the minorities at ignoring the majority. Life should be reasonably simple, we're making it so difficult people will just retreat in fear and society will become very bland.

Careful. You might offend somebody. Something? :smile:
 






Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,324
Living In a Box
I didn’t name names, it was just an observation on something which was totally uncalled for in the grand scheme of things.

But judging by some of the reactions on here, we are already a long way down a rocky road.

But just hypothetically, sadly we all know dear old Roy Chuter took his own life, I was the Celebrant at his funeral on the day, and opened up with exactly the same greeting, good afternoon Ladies and Gentlemen, if a non binary person had collared me, the overwhelming majority on here would have said given the circumstances of the occasion ‘they’ were wrong to raise such a trivial issue.

I turned 57 on Tuesday, I’m glad I’m not 27 that’s for certain 👍

So the fact that you have raised on a public forum an issue you take offence to doesn't bother you about any confidential clause between yourself (or possibly another company the same as yours) and a client?
 


Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,481
Sussex by the Sea
So the fact that you have raised on a public forum an issue you take offence to doesn't bother you about any confidential clause between yourself (or possibly another company the same as yours) and a client?

So, were any names or similar details revealed?

So, I think a generic statement highlighting such a position is fine, in a free world.
 


knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,109
So, were any names or similar details revealed?

So, I think a generic statement highlighting such a position is fine, in a free world.

Exactly. Free speech.
No problem for anyone with a window licker off spring or people with an understanding of trans to choose another funeral director.
 




Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,324
Living In a Box
So, were any names or similar details revealed?

So, I think a generic statement highlighting such a position is fine, in a free world.

I wouldn't be so sure, might be quite easy to work it out if you read this, still you appear to be a confident legal expert.

If only Ernest were still around.............
 
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clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,877
So, were any names or similar details revealed?

So, I think a generic statement highlighting such a position is fine, in a free world.

No but for the easily identifiable owner of a local funeral directors to post something that was said at a recent funeral to (let's face it) make a pollical point is in really really bad taste, completely unprofessional and deeply disrespectful.

Is he free to do so ? Of course but so are others to call it out.

OP needs to make his mind up. Does he keep his business dealings private and respectful or carve out an alternative career as an internet based pound shop James Whale ?
 
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wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
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Aug 10, 2007
13,915
Melbourne
The person conducting the ‘service’. It can be someone religious, or humanist or whoever the family choose.

I have doubts this actually happened at all, but that the OP thought it would be a controversial/ fishing thread to drop on Nsc.

WTAF? You’ve changed.
 




Nitram

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Jul 16, 2013
2,268
Been to quite a few funerals myself and never known a celebrant to come out with ladies and gentleman. Sounds like someone more at home giving a speech to cronies at a golf club or other male dominated social events. I suppose most of these celebrants see themselves as minor celebrities and can’t say I’ve ever heard a sincere eulogy from one other than a priest. Just unlucky I suppose.
Most would refer to main family by name, family and friends, guess that’s not showbiz enough.
 


wellquickwoody

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Aug 10, 2007
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Melbourne
I’d have just said “well, today isn’t about you so goodbye”.
Time and a place.
Having said that, the world is changing in this respect and mostly for the better.
However, I think the OP is lying and shit stirring. So I regret posting now.
What a confused mess I have become.

You think the OP is lying? Just wow.
 


wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
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Aug 10, 2007
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Melbourne
Picture the scene, Worthing Crematorium post lockdown, attendance restrictions lifted, and one of my favourite funeral celebrants opens our service with,
"Good afternoon Lades and Gentleman, and thank you for attending this service of celebration for the late...…"

After the service has finished, an individual approached the Celebrant and said "I was deeply offended by the term Ladies and Gentleman as I'm non binary and don't identify as either"

Some people need to get out more :ffsparr:

Seems most apt……..
 

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sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
17,965
town full of eejits
Picture the scene, Worthing Crematorium post lockdown, attendance restrictions lifted, and one of my favourite funeral celebrants opens our service with,
"Good afternoon Lades and Gentleman, and thank you for attending this service of celebration for the late...…"

After the service has finished, an individual approached the Celebrant and said "I was deeply offended by the term Ladies and Gentleman as I'm non binary and don't identify as either"

Some people need to get out more :ffsparr:

did the celebrant deck it ...?
 


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