So are Reading really a better project ?

[B.W.]

Yeah nice try - you're the only one laughing which says more about you.

Calm down. Your posts are degenerating fast.

 

[glasfryn]

Another insult. Pathetic post.

IMHO I think you are insulting everyone on here with your continual "my source" giving you info that we are not allowed to know about
would you do me a favour tell your "source" to keep his/her info to themselves as you keep inferring about it is getting right on my tits

 

[Icy Gull]

OK - so it was clearly more difficult to understand than was first thought

Telling someone something in confidence that they don't repeat but just allude to without actually divulging anything is not the same as breaching the trust. Journalists do it all the time without problems. Do you have a clue what BW was told other than it involved what Gus allegedly did?

I think it's you that is having trouble comprehending, but I'll steer clear of posting a patronising smilie.

 

[symyjym]

*Sigh* For the last time, I couldn't give a shit about BW, my point with him was about his 'look at me' posts because of his 'senior source', not his opinion of Gus. And Mo was describing Gus character, which let's face it is not a secret, not the decision they came to or how it was handled. I don't support anybody's viewpoint because the facts are not known - by ANYBODY who posts on NSC. As has been said before, IF the facts come out, then I'll make my judgement.

Now then, do you understand that or shall I draw you picture?

No need to trouble yourself, I'm looking at the picture Gus painted.

The very public angry mass “Hi All” email sent from Gus to everyone in AITC & BHAFC at all levels of employment is enough factual proof for me of inappropriate conduct even if he was an beforehand.

I presume that you find this forgivable?

 

[glasfryn]

Telling someone something in confidence that they don't repeat but just allude to without actually divulging anything is not the same as breaching the trust. Journalists do it all the time without problems. Do you have a clue what BW was told other than it involved what Gus allegedly did?

I think it's you that is having trouble comprehending.

no and I don't want to know thanks it will be far to one sided for me anyway
is BW a journalist then or are you just alluding to that

 

[glasfryn]

No need to trouble yourself, I'm looking at the picture Gus painted.

The very public angry mass “Hi All” email sent from Gus to everyone in AITC & BHAFC at all levels of employment is enough factual proof for me of inappropriate conduct even if he was an beforehand.

I presume that you find this forgivable

did you see him write that then?

edit
I have said in other threads and maybe this one I would not trust any one of them including Gus but I do like to see a bit of fairness

 

[Seagull73]

Telling someone something in confidence that they don't repeat but just allude to without actually divulging anything is not the same as breaching the trust. Journalists do it all the time without problems. Do you have a clue what BW was told other than it involved what Gus allegedly did?

I think it's you that is having trouble comprehending.

Is BW a journalist then? Journalistic licence is very different to something a friend / acquiantance might have told you. Telling somebody in confidence means that nobody else should know you even know.

Otherwise it's not complete confidence.

And anyway, BW was using his 'senior source' link to back up his point and form his opinion, which in retrospect was either misguided or plain narcissistic.

 

[Icy Gull]

no and I don't want to know thanks it will be far to one sided for me anyway
is BW a journalist then or are you just alluding to that

When you get an opinion or statement from one person it does tend to be one sided

As for the journalist bit, once again you TOTALLY miss the point

 

[B.W.]

IMHO I think you are insulting everyone on here with your continual "my source" giving you info that we are not allowed to know about
would you do me a favour tell your "source" to keep his/her info to themselves as you keep inferring about it is getting right on my tits

We've been here before. See my earlier post on this (if you can find it!).

 

[Seagull73]

No need to trouble yourself, I'm looking at the picture Gus painted.

The very public angry mass “Hi All” email sent from Gus to everyone in AITC & BHAFC at all levels of employment is enough factual proof for me of inappropriate conduct even if he was an beforehand.

I presume that you find this forgivable

Why don't you try reading my posts? It's clear balance and reasoning are beyond your capacity, but I have said that I couldn't actually give a sh1t about opinions, just facts. If those facts are never made public, I won't be able to make a judgement.

And for the record, no I am not precious enough to get uptight about a ranting e-mail. It wasn't aimed at me personally, and considering it was supposed to be an internal e-mail, I really don't understand why you would be precious about it either.

 

[B.W.]

For the record, I'm not a journo, or a narcisist.

 

[B.W.]

Why don't you try reading my posts? It's clear balance and reasoning are beyond your capacity, but I have said that I couldn't actually give a sh1t about opinions, just facts. If those facts are never made public, I won't be able to make a judgement.

And for the record, no I am not precious enough to get uptight about a ranting e-mail. It wasn't aimed at me personally, and considering it was supposed to be an internal e-mail, I really don't understand why you would be precious about it either.

It was a ridiculous email tho' wasn't it?

 

[glasfryn]

For the record, I'm not a journo, or a narcisist.

I am sure you must be one of them
"now look here I have a friend in the club quite high up and he has told me whats what but unfortunately I can't tell you because you are not me ,see"

 

[London Irish]

No need to trouble yourself, I'm looking at the picture Gus painted.

The very public angry mass “Hi All” email sent from Gus to everyone in AITC & BHAFC at all levels of employment is enough factual proof for me of inappropriate conduct even if he was an beforehand.

I presume that you find this forgivable?

I think most fair-minded and reasonable people would excuse and mitigate it given the uniquely unpleasant nature of the Palace dressing room incident and the fact that Gus would have been reeling from the disappointment of the result.

Of course, those people actually looking for reasons to justify a pre-determined decision to sack him won't forgive, that's obvious to all.

Tribunal chairmen are fair-minded people. I've covered a fair few industrial tribunals and I've seen far worse things than this kind of stuff (eg abusive screaming matches) not ruled by them as gross misconduct.

 

[Seagull73]

It was a ridiculous email tho' wasn't it?

Absolutely ridiculous - but one that non-recipients should get precious or uptight about?

 

[symyjym]

did you see him write that then?

edit
I have said in other threads and maybe this one I would not trust any one of them including Gus but I do like to see a bit of fairness

If he didn't, he would have disputed it, so your next argument is flawed.

 

[Seagull73]

I think most fair-minded and reasonable people would excuse and mitigate it given the uniquely unpleasant nature of the Palace dressing room incident and the fact that Gus would have been reeling from the disappointment of the result.

Of course, those people actually looking for reasons to justify a pre-determined decision to sack him won't forgive, that's obvious to all.

Tribunal chairmen are fair-minded people. I've covered a fair few industrial tribunals and I've seen far worse things than this kind of stuff (eg abusive screaming matches) not ruled by them as gross misconduct.

And yes, it was sent barely 24 hours after the Palace game, and having met the CE during the day. Emotions were clearly running high.

 

[B.W.]

I am sure you must be one of them
"now look here I have a friend in the club quite high up and he has told me whats what but unfortunately I can't tell you because you are not me ,see"

No, I'm neither. Sorry but I'm not accepting that. Like you, I'm posting my opinion.

 

[Icy Gull]

And yes, it was sent barely 24 hours after the Palace game, and having met the CE during the day. Emotions were clearly running high.

I, too, never had a problem with that email, in fact it made me smile.

 

[London Irish]

I, too, never had a problem with that email, in fact it made me smile.

Yep, if there are indeed 4 gross misconduct charges as Gus appeared to indicate in his Sky appearance, this particular one I don't think will detain the tribunal that long.

Good to see you getting stuck into a good verbal scrap, thought that was more my style than yours