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[Albion] Sima







Baldseagull

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Jan 26, 2012
11,839
Crawley
He would like to come back to us, but cant find his car keys.

 


Dec 29, 2011
8,216
We've got to be honest, the SPL is miles from the EPL.

Undav looked the real deal in Belgium, and again in Germany. He hardly pulled up any trees in the Premier League. It really is another level. That's what makes it so impressive that Enciso, Adingra, Ferguson etc have slotted in so seamlessly.
 


Kalimantan Gull

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Aug 13, 2003
13,556
Central Borneo / the Lizard
We've got to be honest, the SPL is miles from the EPL.

Undav looked the real deal in Belgium, and again in Germany. He hardly pulled up any trees in the Premier League. It really is another level. That's what makes it so impressive that Enciso, Adingra, Ferguson etc have slotted in so seamlessly.
Undav was barely given a chance, was only given 6 starts in the premier league - and he scored 4 goals in those 6 matches. He might have been good enough with more opportunity
 


jcdenton08

Offended Liver Sausage
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Oct 17, 2008
15,023
We've got to be honest, the SPL is miles from the EPL.

Undav looked the real deal in Belgium, and again in Germany. He hardly pulled up any trees in the Premier League. It really is another level. That's what makes it so impressive that Enciso, Adingra, Ferguson etc have slotted in so seamlessly.
This. How many times have we seen players flop after outstanding careers in the SPL? The standard is so low (comparatively).
 




Kalimantan Gull

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Aug 13, 2003
13,556
Central Borneo / the Lizard
This. How many times have we seen players flop after outstanding careers in the SPL? The standard is so low (comparatively).

Heres a decent XI of players who moved from the SPL to EPL

Fraser Forster
Nathan Patterson, David Weir, Virgil van Dijk, Andy Robertson
Stiliyan Petrov, Victor Wanyama, John McGinn
Paolo di Canio, Mark Viduka, Steven Fletcher

Not a bad team that.
 
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Dec 29, 2011
8,216
Heres a decent XI of players who moved from the SPL to EPL

Fraser Forster
Nathan Patterson, David Weir, Virgil van Dijk, Andy Robertson
Stiliyan Petrov, Victor Wanyama, John McGinn
Paolo di Canio, Mark Viduka, Steven Fletcher

Not a bad team that.
You had to go back a few decades to cobble together a team that would struggle to avoid relegation. Hardly helps the case.
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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Jul 19, 2021
8,754
This. How many times have we seen players flop after outstanding careers in the SPL? The standard is so low (comparatively).
We loan out players to weaker leagues, whether in this country or abroad. It's totally normal.

At some point we'll need to bring him in and get him in the squad to see if he can make it.
 






Slum_Wolf

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May 3, 2021
794
Has Morales lit any fires since leaving Rangers ?
Probably, but not on the pitch. For Santos, since joining in September, no starts, three substitute appearances, 2 yellow cards and 0 goals. He missed 9 games due to injury.
 


Brian Fantana

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Oct 8, 2006
7,578
In the field
We've got to be honest, the SPL is miles from the EPL.

Undav looked the real deal in Belgium, and again in Germany. He hardly pulled up any trees in the Premier League. It really is another level. That's what makes it so impressive that Enciso, Adingra, Ferguson etc have slotted in so seamlessly.
This is massively harsh on Undav.
 




Kalimantan Gull

Well-known member
Aug 13, 2003
13,556
Central Borneo / the Lizard
You had to go back a few decades to cobble together a team that would struggle to avoid relegation. Hardly helps the case.
There aren't actually all that many players who have made the move from SPL to EPL.

Still, the point about having to go back a few decades is a fair one, you spoil it by saying they would struggle to avoid relegation as every single one of those players was playing top half football during their time in the prem, maybe with exception of Fletcher, can't recall how his Sunderland side did.
 




thedonkeycentrehalf

Moved back to wear the gloves (again)
Jul 7, 2003
9,412
A Scottish colleague of mine is a Rangers fan. He like Sima and says he works well in their system.

His view is that he is if he came back to us, he would be best used as a winger cutting inside. He doesn't think Sima would suit the way we play in the strikers role as his movement, hold up and approach play are not good enough at the moment.
 




Zebedee

Anyone seen Florence?
Jul 8, 2003
8,058
Hangleton
A Scottish colleague of mine is a Rangers fan. He like Sima and says he works well in their system.

His view is that he is if he came back to us, he would be best used as a winger cutting inside. He doesn't think Sima would suit the way we play in the strikers role as his movement, hold up and approach play are not good enough at the moment.
He would say that wouldn't he, if they're keen to keep him :)
 


portslade seagull

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Jul 19, 2003
18,028
portslade
We've got to be honest, the SPL is miles from the EPL.

Undav looked the real deal in Belgium, and again in Germany. He hardly pulled up any trees in the Premier League. It really is another level. That's what makes it so impressive that Enciso, Adingra, Ferguson etc have slotted in so seamlessly.
Undav was scoring goals for fun at the end of last season. I would say he is the most lethal finisher excluding penalties we have
 


British Bulldog

The great escape
Feb 6, 2006
10,980
A Scottish colleague of mine is a Rangers fan. He like Sima and says he works well in their system.

His view is that he is if he came back to us, he would be best used as a winger cutting inside. He doesn't think Sima would suit the way we play in the strikers role as his movement, hold up and approach play are not good enough at the moment.
Watching Sima for Rangers today, either he is injured or he's not very good? He's just jogging around doing nothin, looks like Emile Heskey on antidepressants.
 






raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
7,652
Wiltshire
We've got to be honest, the SPL is miles from the EPL.

Undav looked the real deal in Belgium, and again in Germany. He hardly pulled up any trees in the Premier League. It really is another level. That's what makes it so impressive that Enciso, Adingra, Ferguson etc have slotted in so seamlessly.
But Undav performed well in the end IMO.
 


trueblue

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Jul 5, 2003
11,027
Hove
A Scottish colleague of mine is a Rangers fan. He like Sima and says he works well in their system.

His view is that he is if he came back to us, he would be best used as a winger cutting inside. He doesn't think Sima would suit the way we play in the strikers role as his movement, hold up and approach play are not good enough at the moment.
The Rangers fan I know would agree. Said all along that his touch was nowhere near PL standard. They didn’t rate him at all early on and have been pretty surprised at his success.
 


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