Should Tube leaders go to prison?

[Nibble]

50k a year, how many hours do they do per week, I heard just under 38? Nice work if you can get it!

Yes, and the sole reason they have good working conditions and pay is because they FOUGHT for it with the use of UNIONS

It winds me up that people look at people in jobs and rather than think "Good on them, I might try and better myself and get into a similar position, wouldn't it be good if all jobs had unions to back them and get them good deals" They think "Bloody moaning wankers, bring 'em down, sack 'em, get another job you *******s"

Sums this country up really.

 

[El Presidente]

Haven't you guys got work to do.

I've been unable to concentrate at work since someone planted the picture of a half naked [MENTION=232]Simster[/MENTION] in my head a couple of hours ago.

 

[alfredmizen]

You see, this is utterly contemptible. When did YOU last "resign" (walk away with no compensation) because an employer fundamentally changed your working conditions?

It's got nothing to do with Boris, but as usual, he's full square behind the bullying employers. And I didn't say it was a party political thing. If you ask me, people like Boris Johnson should be keeping their mouths shut when it comes to disputes like this.

This is why [MENTION=31796]alfredmizen[/MENTION] has said what he said. If I was an employer and said to you "You now need to go to Glasgow twice a week to do your job but you''ll clear an extra tenner a week." and you replied "no deal", would you expect people to have sympathy with you, or would you expect them to ask "What are you whinging about? Isn't £xxxk enough already?" Because that's what you're implying here.

Your argument is all over the place. At best, a straw man argument You honestly want to compare people exercising their right to strike over forcibly having their working conditions altered to Greek mismanagement of an entire economy, including a bloated public sector and ludicrously early retirement for all?

 

[Gwylan]

the starting salary is £49,673

A bit more digging around reveals that's top of the salary scale while the starting salary is about £25k. That's still pretty good for London - good for the unions for negotiating it

 

[Stumpy Tim]

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Incorrect. You agree with [MENTION=232]Simster[/MENTION], I don't.

 

[The Spanish]

Care to explain? £50,000 is a very good wage anywhere, especially if you only need a few GCSEs.



Because when they strike, thousands of people cannot get to work. That has a significant cost to the UK economy. Is this not obvious?

Thousands of people getting paid 50k or more for total non jobs

Good luck to the tube drivers, have seen enough tube strikes to know it's a massive inconvenience but it's not a firemans strike.

Glad I am not there it would do my head in like the last few did.

 

[Nibble]

Does money change your class ?

Allow me to answer that once and for all

 

[beorhthelm]

A bit more digging around reveals that's top of the salary scale while the starting salary is about £25k. That's still pretty good for London - good for the unions for negotiating it

methinks thats for the station staff. or the cleaners. drivers get the £50k.

 

[smudge]

methinks thats for the station staff. or the cleaners. drivers get the £50k.

Not many stations have staff these days thanks to Boris.

 

[Grizz]

Does anyone know if this £50k a year is an accurate figure? I keep seeing it quoted in the Tory press but is that really the average wage for a Tube driver or what could be earned if he/she did a lot of overtime?

It is accurate, Train Operators get just under 50k and there's very little opportunity for any overtime.

 

[Chicken Run]

I am driving a train...look mum no hands!

For 49k a year and less than 40 hours a week I'm certain I'd give NSC at miss for a few hours lol

 

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

When has NSC been a good barometer?! Everyone I speak to think it's a disgrace

This last pearl of wisdom tells me all I need to know about you.

 

[Stumpy Tim]

This last pearl of wisdom tells me all I need to know about you.

And what's that?

 

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

And what's that?

That you and everyone you've spoken to have won the race to the bottom,
Don't be jealous,aspire.

 

[Stumpy Tim]

That you and everyone you've spoken to have won the race to the bottom,
Don't be jealous,aspire.

Jealous? On this thread I've been accused of not caring about working class people, of abhorrent views, and even being a banker. I'll add jealousy to that list, though unsure what I have to be jealous about

 

[Monsieur Le Plonk]

Jealous? On this thread I've been accused of not caring about working class people, of abhorrent views, and even being a banker. I'll add jealousy to that list, though unsure what I have to be jealous about

Have you considered legal advice?

 

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

Or you've fallen for the Unions propaganda. Neither of us actually know. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle

It's not propaganda,I've seen the offer and it's four hour time limit to all four unions,facts are it's not about money it's about imposing changes in working agreements,refusal to negotiate and accept work life balance,union members on London Underground voted by 98%on an 81% turnout to withdraw their labour,I strongly suggest that if you have had working conditions changed without negotiation you join a trade union.

Morden picket tis morning,it was glorious to see the sun rising and heart warming the amount of public support.
Don't bend over and take one off your boss,join a union,be so much happier knowing that your work colleagues have your back.

 

[Stumpy Tim]

Have you considered legal advice?

I know!

 

[Diablo]

Driving a train has got to be one of the easiest jobs around....you go forwards on a track,stopping at stations...Driving a bus must be harder you have to steer aswell and remember your route...Do Bus Drivers get £50k...I doubt it ..

 

[alfredmizen]

It's not propaganda,I've seen the offer and it's four hour time limit to all four unions,facts are it's not about money it's about imposing changes in working agreements,refusal to negotiate and accept work life balance,union members on London Underground voted by 98%on an 81% turnout to withdraw their labour,I strongly suggest that if you have had working conditions changed without negotiation you join a trade union.

Morden picket tis morning,it was glorious to see the sun rising and heart warming the amount of public support.
Don't bend over and take one off your boss,join a union,be so much happier knowing that your work colleagues have your back.

spot on.