Should the next Conservative Gvt scap the ban on Fox hunting.

[Nibble]

 

[User removed 4]

No, I made a lighthearted post about stag shooting which is what the shotguns referred to. That said I assume you know what lamping is and that is the main legal way of dealing with foxes? Try avoiding the Devils Dandruff and you'll come over as less of a humourless oaf.

No, you made a comment about purdey's and 'badly dressed suburban oiks' does no-one escape the ire of your class prejudice? it's only now that you've managd to conjure up the 'staghunting' excuse, and why are you talking about lamping ? this thread is about foxhuting, you know, with horse and hounds etc, try going to do a real job , with real targets ,and real pressure and you might come across as less of a humourless class warrior.

 

[Nibble]

I'm tied, while I like posh birds and despise ghastly poor people I can't abide the snooty classes trotting about on land that they stole from the common people, toot-a-toot tooting on their bugles and ripping living things to bits.

I suggest get them all up against the wall.

 

[Dandyman]

No, you made a comment about purdey's and 'badly dressed suburban oiks' does no-one escape the ire of your class prejudice? it's only now that you've managd to conjure up the 'staghunting' excuse, and why are you talking about lamping ? this thread is about foxhuting, you know, with horse and hounds etc, try going to do a real job , with real targets ,and real pressure and you might come across as less of a humourless class warrior.

Glad to see you read the Master of Fox Hounds link and that you know better than them.

 

[beorhthelm]

Banning it was a complete sop to the left wing, as "New Labour" tried to retain its support the working class flat cap wearers.

thats a funny thing, its wasnt even a popular issue amongst the "flat cap wearers" in fact i recall northern semi-urban Labour MPs came out against it as it covered hare coarsing and the such. its a sop to left wing intellectuals who like to tell us they know best.

 

[daveinprague]

Some of these country peasants seem to think people in cities dont travel out of the cities.
No, they dont think that really, but they consistantly use that as an excuse to win stupid discussions on the internet. Its sad.
Its illegal to hunt foxes....fecking get over it, and stop wasting peoples time with your minority sports issues.

and when people start eating foxes, then you can compare it to fishing.

 

[beorhthelm]

and when people start eating foxes, then you can compare it to fishing.

i take it you are unfamiliar with the vastly popular, 100% sport based, course fishing? no eating of roach, tench, carp, pike etc.

 

[daveinprague]

people eat carp for xmas dinner here (believe it or not)...so...no reason to believe it cant be eaten there.

TENCH STEWED WITH WINE.
Ingredients: 1/2 pint of stock No. 105
1/2 pint of Madeira or sherry
salt and pepper to taste
1 bay-leaf
thickening of butter and flour.
Method: Clean and crimp the tench; carefully lay it in a stewpan with the stock, wine, salt and pepper, and bay-leaf; let it stew gently for 1/2 hour; then take it out, put it on a dish, and keep hot. Strain the liquor, and thicken it with butter and flour kneaded together, and stew for 5 minutes. If not perfectly smooth, squeeze it through a tammy, add a very little cayenne, and pour over the fish. Garnish with balls of veal forcemeat.
Time: Rather more than 1/2 hour.
Notes:



Recipe: Pike with red wine and bacon Serves 4

Ingredients

Salt and freshly ground black pepper
12 round shallots, peeled 200ml red wine
300ml of light chicken stock
50g unsalted butter
100g piece of smoked streaky bacon, cut into 1cm lardons
4 fillets of pike, each weighing around 180g
2 tbsp freshly chopped parsley
1 clove of garlic, finely chopped


I dont eat roach..normally stays in the ashtray...!

pss...dont 'sports' fishermen throw their catches back?

 

[beorhthelm]

people eat carp for xmas dinner here (believe it or not)...so...no reason to believe it cant be eaten there.
Pike is also very edible.

but its not eaten here, except the game fish trout and salmon. im sure a bit of stewed fox is a treat too.

 

[daveinprague]

but its not eaten here, except the game fish trout and salmon. im sure a bit of stewed fox is a treat too.

Yay, we could be like the Koreans and eat dogs!! Wicked!!


whether people actually eat carp or not...its an edible fish...which is why there are plenty of recipes for it..
http://www.cooks.com/rec/search/0,1-0,carp,FF.html

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

can someone answer a simple question for me ,
a lot of people on here are totaly against fox hunting because its cruel (so they say) not because of all the nobs all dressed up , and all the rich fuckers that hunt(so they say)
so are you really telling me that putting a live maggot or worm on a hook (not cruel) then dropping this baited hook in front of a fish , then letting the fish fight against a rod , line ,angler and the big hook in its throat is (not cruel ) is ok, the fish is then dragged onto the shore or river bank where it is dispatched , now before you say we eat the fish , what about the 100s of makeral that are caught off the piers in the summer , thrown in a bin liner to go rotten before being dumped .
no i am sorry like it or not if the working class went fox hunting none of the antis on here would be antis , its all about the upper crust , sad bunch some of you lot .
by the way i have never hunted foxes , but love fishing !!!

sadly this arguement is unbalanced so cannot be answered simply

in my view it is only correct to catch a fish to eat it. An animal should not be subjected to that for no reason.

Also (as far as I can think of) fishing is actually a very quick method of killing the animal. Sadly there is no easier fairer way to catch than with a hook so that cant be avoided, but the fish is CLONKED on the head to kill it quickly as little suffering involved.

People don't hunt foxes for meat. If they did then I wouldn't be against the killing of the animal in a quick manor(or shooting),

but to chase it on horse back with hundreds of blood thirsty dogs trained to rip it apart for no reason other than a kick is NOTHING like catching an animal quickly or food.

There is a CLEAR difference.

 

[daveinprague]

Wahoo

'no i am sorry like it or not if the working class went fox hunting none of the antis on here would be antis , its all about the upper crust , sad bunch some of you lot''

Many of th people involved in this barbaric pasttime are 'working class'
Its nothing to do with class...its to do with people in the country feeling they are being 'told what to do' and since many of these people think they are better than the ''ruffians'' that live in cities, they dont like it.
Feck all to do with class.'
Feck them, and their stupid 'traditions'

 

[wahoo]

sadly this arguement is unbalanced so cannot be answered simply

in my view it is only correct to catch a fish to eat it. An animal should not be subjected to that for no reason.

Also (as far as I can think of) fishing is actually a very quick method of killing the animal. Sadly there is no easier fairer way to catch than with a hook so that cant be avoided, but the fish is CLONKED on the head to kill it quickly as little suffering involved.

People don't hunt foxes for meat. If they did then I wouldn't be against the killing of the animal in a quick manor(or shooting),

but to chase it on horse back with hundreds of blood thirsty dogs trained to rip it apart for no reason other than a kick is NOTHING like catching an animal quickly or food.

There is a CLEAR difference.

you have obviously never heard of sport fishing where the actual sport is the fun of catching the fish , the harder it fights the better etc the fish is then released to fight another day !

 

[Gully]

I would love to have the opportunity to do the catering for a fox hunting gathering...I would trawl the roads of the countryside and gather up as much road-kill as I could find (foxes, badgers, rabbits...and those piles of fur that you aren't really sure about) then turn the whole lot into sausages and pies...served up a treat to go with the stirrup cup!

 

[wahoo]

I would love to have the opportunity to do the catering for a fox hunting gathering...I would trawl the roads of the countryside and gather up as much road-kill as I could find (foxes, badgers, rabbits...and those piles of fur that you aren't really sure about) then turn the whole lot into sausages and pies...served up a treat to go with the stirrup cup!

why would you do that , is it because you presume them rich and you poor , i doubt you have ever met anyone who hunts , so what makes you want to do that , just a question like

 

[daveinprague]

Why are you persisting with the class theme?
Its feck all to do with class.. working class people work the hunt.
People dont agree with it, because its barbaric 'sport' for country people
who consider it a 'social' event, and dont like being told they cant do it by
people that they consider 'dont understand' the country way of life (or painful death in the
case of the fox). Can understand them being bored, living in the country,
Its mosly extremely dull. Take up knitting, country dancing, or that other
deviancy country music.

 

[raymondbriggs]

basically fox hunting is not a class issue,many working class rural people follow the hunt.
the problem is that fox hunters are basically pervs just a tiny little bit less unpleasant than peodophiles.

 

[DJ Leon]

Killing animals for fun is wrong.

That is all.

 

[beorhthelm]

Why are you persisting with the class theme?
Its feck all to do with class.. working class people work the hunt.

because it *was* about class. urban working/chatterling classes vs the country land owning class. those working class that work the hunt are cap doffing tories, or collateral damage in Tory safe seats if a few Labour supporters are amongst them. only fooling yourself if the overriding aim was to stop bloodsports, otherwise as mentioned they would have gone after fishing too. thats not to say everyone anit is so because of the class issue, but thats the reason the Labour heirarchy saw fit to waste so much parliamentry time on such a niche issue.

 

[daveinprague]

We eat fish. We dont eat fox.