Tyrone Biggums
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Until a shit load of guns brought a stop to that...
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Shootings at Pulse nightclub in Orlando
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Until a shit load of guns brought a stop to that...
Tyrone Biggums
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It was the Civil war that saw the development of rapid fire weapons. The Spencer Carbine could put out 7 shots in 30 seconds.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...club-a-dozen-times-say-regulars-a7080576.html
Omar Mateen 'visited Orlando's Pulse night club a dozen times', say regulars
Omar Mateen 'visited Orlando's Pulse night club a dozen times', say regulars
Tyrone Biggums
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Probably more use, mind, than a 4-gallon tea mug.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-australia-preacher-visa-idUKKCN0Z00EN
Australia is urgently reviewing the visa of a British Islamic scholar who toured Orlando earlier this year and had preached in 2013 that "death is the sentence" for homosexual acts.
Farrokh Sekaleshfar, a senior Shi'ite Muslim scholar, is currently giving a series of lectures at an Islamic centre in Sydney on the topic of spirituality.
Sekaleshfar said in a lecture in Michigan in 2013 that in an Islamic society, the death penalty should be carried out for homosexuals who engaged in sodomy.
"Out of compassion, let’s get rid of him now, because he’s contaminating society," he said, according to a recording available online.
There is no evidence of any link between his comments and the American Muslim man who killed 49 people in a gay nightclub in Orlando on Sunday, the deadliest mass shooting in the United States.
Sekaleshfar told Reuters on Monday that he condemned the Orlando shooting as a "barbaric act of terror that was in no way justified."
Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull told reporters on Tuesday he has "zero tolerance for people to come to Australia who preach hatred" and his government was reviewing Sekaleshfar's visa "as we speak."
The Immigration Office did not immediately respond to a query about how long that review
would take, while Sekaleshfar could not immediately be contacted after Turnbull's comments.
Sekaleshfar said his comments in 2013 were made in the context of a lecture on Islamic law and homosexuality and should "not have been interpreted as a call for any Tom, Dick, or Harry to carry out a sentence wherever, whenever they like."
In his 2013 lecture, Sekaleshfar said: "There is nothing to be embarrassed about this. Death is the sentence."
"Islam doesn’t accept people’s faith to be compromised, to be threatened and it has to be taken seriously," he said. "With homosexuals it is the same."
Sekaleshfar gave a different lecture in Orlando in March.
Australia is urgently reviewing the visa of a British Islamic scholar who toured Orlando earlier this year and had preached in 2013 that "death is the sentence" for homosexual acts.
Farrokh Sekaleshfar, a senior Shi'ite Muslim scholar, is currently giving a series of lectures at an Islamic centre in Sydney on the topic of spirituality.
Sekaleshfar said in a lecture in Michigan in 2013 that in an Islamic society, the death penalty should be carried out for homosexuals who engaged in sodomy.
"Out of compassion, let’s get rid of him now, because he’s contaminating society," he said, according to a recording available online.
There is no evidence of any link between his comments and the American Muslim man who killed 49 people in a gay nightclub in Orlando on Sunday, the deadliest mass shooting in the United States.
Sekaleshfar told Reuters on Monday that he condemned the Orlando shooting as a "barbaric act of terror that was in no way justified."
Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull told reporters on Tuesday he has "zero tolerance for people to come to Australia who preach hatred" and his government was reviewing Sekaleshfar's visa "as we speak."
The Immigration Office did not immediately respond to a query about how long that review
would take, while Sekaleshfar could not immediately be contacted after Turnbull's comments.
Sekaleshfar said his comments in 2013 were made in the context of a lecture on Islamic law and homosexuality and should "not have been interpreted as a call for any Tom, Dick, or Harry to carry out a sentence wherever, whenever they like."
In his 2013 lecture, Sekaleshfar said: "There is nothing to be embarrassed about this. Death is the sentence."
"Islam doesn’t accept people’s faith to be compromised, to be threatened and it has to be taken seriously," he said. "With homosexuals it is the same."
Sekaleshfar gave a different lecture in Orlando in March.
A proportion of the population are gay.
Obviously it follows that a proportion of the gun-happy, right-to-bear-wildly-unsuitable-arms brigade, will also be.
What's your point?
Tyrone Biggums
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A proportion of the population are gay.
Obviously it follows that a proportion of the gun-happy, right-to-bear-wildly-unsuitable-arms brigade, will also be.
What's your point?
It's a point of view from the gay community which we've yet too see openly expressed that often.
That Islam is a big threat to gay people due to Islams views on homosexuality.
Bold Seagull
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Doesn't say anything about Islam being a threat to gay people? You appear to have drawn that conclusion yourself.
No - its a point of view from (a specific branch of) the gun lobby, telling us yet again, that people being massacred by easily obtained automatic weapons, has nothing to do with easily obtained automatic weapons.
Tyrone Biggums
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Why were they masacred? Why that group of people?
You'd have to ask the dead guy. I'd SURMISE that it was a combination of mental instability and discriminatory hatred - quite possibly fuelled by religious beliefs.
I know for certain though what facilitated the SCALE of the massacre.
Either way, none of that is the POINT of that gun group's statement. Its opportunism - a perfect chance for them, as gun-worshippers, to add their five pence to the debate. "Hey everyone - even us gays don't blame the gun".
Tyrone Biggums
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Nope, plenty of groups etc out there set up as Gays against Islam. On all social media platforms.
That's their conclusion, I just happen to agree with them.
Tyrone Biggums
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I think you've missed their point. They aren't worshipping it, they are realising its a valid form of defence for their own lives.
Thus they are telling other gays to arm themselves.
Security at the club were armed. The police outside were armed. 50 people are dead.
pb21
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Tanks would be a valid form of defence, why is there no call for gays to buy and drive around in tanks?
Tyrone Biggums
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Tyrone Biggums
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And if 50 inside the club were armed that Muslim mofo would have gone down in a hail of bullets.
pb21
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Because you can't carry one in your bumbag der
Well they could paint them in bright rainbow colours, fly some flags off them whilst taking out the ********.
What about grenades then? That way when gays are attacked, but don't know where from exactly, they can throw a grenade in the general direction and hope it takes out the shooter. Admittedly there may be some collateral damage but at least they will be defending themselves.