Don't know if anyone else has mentioned he was banned from football grounds for pelting disabled Ipswich supporters with missiles in 2007 . Sounds a real hard man
His mother most be SO proud.
Don't know if anyone else has mentioned he was banned from football grounds for pelting disabled Ipswich supporters with missiles in 2007 . Sounds a real hard man
4 months is about right. 5 yr ban too lenient, should be a lifetime.
And I thought what made the incident worse was the way the Leeds fans let him rejoin the terrace and melt away. Nobody even rebuked him, let alone tried to restrain him. And the Jimmy Savile chant was in pretty poor taste too.
Leeds can ban him for life if they want - I expect that they will. PR disaster if they don't.
thanks for your inputDas Reich = boring 80s would be football hooligan dinosaur
I've got to be honest- and I don't wish for a second to seem to be trivialising what is undoubtedly a criminal offence of assault by a complete tool- but I did find myself thinking when I first saw it that Kirkland went down like only a footballer could. That is obviously not the point here, and the twat that ran on deserves everything he gets, but I've seen as many if not more fights than most people, and people never, ever go down holding their face in a scrap, do they, unless they have been really, genuinely smashed? Even if they're hit completely unawares, the natural human reaction is to reel back, and then to look up and wonder what's hit you, not to drop to the floor.
I'm not criticising Kirkland, to be fair, the invader had no right to be where he was, I've no doubt it hurt momentarily, and I'm sure it was unexpected to say the least. It's not funny that he got hit, I guess I just see something in the reaction that seems to be very much a football thing, as opposed to the reaction you'd see in any other walk of life. It's kind of unnatural looking, I suppose.
Probably not making much sense there, but I know what I'm trying to say Just a shame the moron involved will be out of prison in time for Christmas.
no its not, how many times you had a snide smack in the gob ?Playing Sunday morning football a couple of seasons ago, I'd put in a few fairly strong tackles on the oppositions striker, and he was getting a bit wound up. After I'd put him on the floor once more, I was stood on the halfway line waiting for the game to restart, when one of their other players caught me with a puch to the side of the head. I went straight down. Given how quickly any pain had passed, the guy can't have actually caught me very hard, but the shock of getting hit when you're not prepared for it definitely makes it feel worse. Its totally different to someone getting punched during a fight, when they'd see it coming and be braced for it.
(By the time I'd got to me feet, the little hardman had run straight off the pitch, to be subbed. The whole incident was behind the ref's back, and the nearside lino was the opposition's manager who unsurprisingly didn't see it....)
Playing Sunday morning football a couple of seasons ago, I'd put in a few fairly strong tackles on the oppositions striker, and he was getting a bit wound up. After I'd put him on the floor once more, I was stood on the halfway line waiting for the game to restart, when one of their other players caught me, from behind, with a punch to the side of the head. I went straight down. Given how quickly any pain had passed, the guy can't have actually caught me very hard, but the shock of getting hit when you're not prepared for it definitely makes it feel worse. Its totally different to someone getting punched during a fight, when they'd see it coming and be braced for it.
(By the time I'd got to my feet, the little hardman had run straight off the pitch, to be subbed. The whole incident was behind the ref's back, and the nearside lino was the opposition's manager who unsurprisingly didn't see it....)
no its not, how many times you hide a snide smack in the gob ?
Don't know if anyone else has mentioned he was banned from football grounds for pelting disabled Ipswich supporters with missiles in 2007 . Sounds a real hard man
It is possible, though, to play football and never once get smacked in the gob. If you keep your head down, play fairly (and cleanly) and don't mouth off to anyone (especially those bigger than you). Same applies to life in general, I've played football my entire life and have never been assaulted on the pitch - or off it.
That's why what happened to Kirkland is so cowardly and appalling. He wasn't even looking at him and did nothing to deserve it!
Oi - are you suggesting I DID deserve it....
The background of mine is that I was 40, and the striker was 18. I put him on the floor half a dozen times before half time, and they were getting a bit upset - but only one challenge had even been called as a foul. I think some of his team-mates felt I was BULLYING him.
Well I don't tackle or get tackled so I can't really comment. I play five yard sideways passes and stand on the center circle. You could say I'm the white Micah Hyde of the West Yorkshire Premier League. I was just suggesting, as does your post, that perhaps you were seen by the opposition as a bit of a hard man yourself thanks to your 'hard tackling' - and therefore a target to get a smack in the chops.
Its you that said that. Ive just pointed out that Brighton are in a very flimsy glass house on this issue. Why you cant see that is very odd unless you have only ever seen Brighton play at The Amex. Brighton punched an Orient player, brighton have also caused trouble all over the place, including west ham last year, and stabbed a southend fan the year before last. I bet they will cause trouble again this year. Glass houses my friend, glass houses. I expect Ray Wilkins would have a wry smile on his face at some of the "we wouldnt do that at Brighton" comments on this site and might point a few to a particular incident at the goldstone.
Well, according to this piece, Ray didn't seem to think it was a big deal!
Later, Wilkins told me: "The guys came streaming on to the pitch. One of them was about to banjo banjo the ref. His eyes were staring like he was either mad or on something. I stepped in front of him and stopped him, and later the referee thanked me."
Wilkins is attacked rescuing the ref! - Free Online Library