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Jul 4, 2003
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Assuming the other article I read was accurate then 5 years seems far too lenient - I'd impose a life ban.

Given that the guy was ALREADY subject to a banning order, the length of the ban seems rather academic.
 
















Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
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Surrey
i feel 4 months is a joke and he also gets a 5 year banning order from football
4 months is about right IMO. He is of course a mong, but he "only" pushed Kirkland in the face. I reckon he'd have got community service if he hadn't shown such contempt for the banning order in place.
 




T soprano

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Oct 27, 2011
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Don't know if anyone else has mentioned he was banned from football grounds for pelting disabled Ipswich supporters with missiles in 2007 . Sounds a real hard man
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,952
Surrey
kirkland = dying swan :timmy:
What an odd thing to say. Yes he stayed down longer than expected, but it seems to have escaped your notice that this isn't really the issue here.

What should Kirkland have done then Das? Decked the guy? Had a big stand up fist fight with him, in front of 3000 Leeds fans?
Quite. Do you seriously not think Kirkland wouldn't have absolutely decked the tiresome little chav if that had been some incident on the pavement outside a pub or something?

That's what make these people seem like utter sad sacks, like that numpty at Millwall in 1991 kicking Mark Beeney in the back. Lets see how hard you are without the feeling that a minority of the 8,000 fans watching wouldn't pile on in your defence if the player being attacked gave you a richly deserved slap back.
 














Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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4 months is about right. 5 yr ban too lenient, should be a lifetime.

And I thought what made the incident worse was the way the Leeds fans let him rejoin the terrace and melt away. Nobody even rebuked him, let alone tried to restrain him. And the Jimmy Savile chant was in pretty poor taste too.
 


Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
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If somebody unexpectedly shoved you in the face, with both hands, do you think it might hurt your neck? Would YOU laugh about it?

I've got to be honest- and I don't wish for a second to seem to be trivialising what is undoubtedly a criminal offence of assault by a complete tool- but I did find myself thinking when I first saw it that Kirkland went down like only a footballer could. That is obviously not the point here, and the twat that ran on deserves everything he gets, but I've seen as many if not more fights than most people, and people never, ever go down holding their face in a scrap, do they, unless they have been really, genuinely smashed? Even if they're hit completely unawares, the natural human reaction is to reel back, and then to look up and wonder what's hit you, not to drop to the floor.

I'm not criticising Kirkland, to be fair, the invader had no right to be where he was, I've no doubt it hurt momentarily, and I'm sure it was unexpected to say the least. It's not funny that he got hit, I guess I just see something in the reaction that seems to be very much a football thing, as opposed to the reaction you'd see in any other walk of life. It's kind of unnatural looking, I suppose.

Probably not making much sense there, but I know what I'm trying to say :) Just a shame the moron involved will be out of prison in time for Christmas.
 


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