Season ticket holders v Regular Away game fans

[Kinky Gerbil]

How many of those 15,000 AMS members go to games regularly and how many are members just for 'glory' games like Tottenham and play offs etc.

did youy have to be an ams to get a ticket for cardiff?

 

[The Laughing Bluebird]

The number of season ticket holders will also outstrip supply. Why should someone who has been to every away game be behind a season ticket holder who has not been to any away games?

We have 9,000+ season ticket holders, but although they have first shout on away tickets there are always tickets left for club members. Every club has plenty of season ticket holders who never travel away.

Why should someone who goes to every away game be behind a season ticket holder who hasn't travelled away? Simple. That's because Brighton & Hove Albion season ticket holders give large sums of money to Brighton & Hove Albion FC each year. Away travellers give their money to other clubs.

As Zeitgeist says, the club is messing around the people who are its lifeblood and are instead giving tickets for big matches to people who may never go to Albion home games, and therefore do nothing to ensure the club's financial survival. That can't possibly be right, can it?

 

[Citrus]

THerefore Season tickets should get priority and some will not get tickets to some games. Well that is the case for nearly all clubs.

I do feel that Brighton does not really give any priority or any positive favours to its season tickets holders. Who guarantee the club 5,000 seats every home game.

Priority for away games - especially glamour matches - would be a start.

And for the supporters who do a lot of away games. The club should introduce prioritising to the ones who attend the most away games.

Most games are all ticket.

At the beginning of the season, the club just needs to announce. "Keep your away match tickets we will give priority to those who attended most games.....when demand will outstrip supply" etc

LC

This is exactly how it should be done. Other clubs do it like this. There will never be a perfect system, however, this is much better than the current one.

 

[fatboy]

We have 9,000+ season ticket holders, but although they have first shout on away tickets there are always tickets left for club members. Every club has plenty of season ticket holders who never travel away.

For example, the last away game of the season at Rotherham. 1500 tickets. Need to win to stay up. I am sure plenty of season ticket holders who never travel away will want to go to this one.

As Zeitgeist says, the club is messing around the people who are its lifeblood and are instead giving tickets for big matches to people who may never go to Albion home games, and therefore do nothing to ensure the club's financial survival. That can't possibly be right, can it?

Nor can someone who goes to every away game missing out on a ticket to a big away game because a season ticket holder who never travels away decides they can now be bothered to go away.

 

[The Laughing Bluebird]

Nor can someone who goes to every away game missing out on a ticket to a big away game because a season ticket holder who never travels away decides they can now be bothered to go away.

But surely the Albion season ticket holder is the person that Albion are most indebted to because he or she gives his or her money to the Albion each season, and not to other clubs instead? At times like these, shouldn't the club be seeking to reward the people who pay large sums of money in order to help it survive?

I've read loads of threads about these Spurs tickets in recent weeks, and it seems to me that perhaps many Albion fans happily accept this ridiculous 'first come first served' system simply because the club is in such an unusual situation and because you've all got used to such weird arrangements.

I haven't heard of any other club that DOESN'T give priority for away tickets to its season ticket holders, and I can guarantee you that there would be bedlam here if CCFC suddenly introduced a 'first come first served' system. Surely you don't believe that the rest of the clubs in the country have got it wrong and Albion has got it right?

 

[fatboy]

But surely the Albion season ticket holder is the person that Albion are most indebted too because he or she gives his or her money to the Albion each season, and not to other clubs instead? At times like these, shouldn't the club be seeking to reward the people who pay large sums of money in order to help it survive?

I've read loads of threads about these Spurs tickets in recent weeks, and it seems to me that perhaps many Albion fans happily accept this ridiculous 'first come first served' system simply because the club is in such an unusual situation and because you've all got used to such weird arrangements.

I haven't heard of any other club that DOESN'T give priority for away tickets to its season ticket holders, and I can guarantee you that there would be bedlam here if CCFC suddenly introduced a 'first come first served' system. Surely you don't believe that the rest of the clubs in the country have got it wrong and Albion has got it right?

No I think the club has got it very wrong.

There are two beliefs: first come, first served and a loyalty system.

The people that want a loyalty system are further split into two groups: those who want a loyalty scheme based on the amount of away games attended, and those who think season ticket holders should have priority for away games.

I cannot see how, when trying to allocate a limited number of tickets (say 2000) for a game with a huge demand, putting a system in place to that gives priority to a group of people that is larger than the amount of tickets, is a good idea.

That said, I am always going to be a season ticket holder and go to away games. So either of the loyalty schemes I mentioned with be beneficial to me, but I would have less chance of a ticket if season ticket holders get priority rather than regular away travellers as the numbers of season ticket holders is greater than regular away travellers.

 

[DJ Leon]

FFS Isn't it time this one was put to bed? There is NO entirely fair way to distribute tickets. Why can't people just live it? Do people kick up a similar fuss if they can't get a table in their favourite restaurant? Next time it happens why don't you give them a call and tell them how much money you have spent with them and just how many times you have eaten on a Wednesday night. What about the cinema or theatre? Did you complain when you couldn't get into the first few showings of the new Star Wars films? Did you kick up a fuss about some of the ignorant newbies going in to watch the film; I bet some of them don't even know Luke's middle name.

WHY DOESN'T EVERYONE JUST GROW UP A BIT ABOUT THIS.

If you want a ticket to game apply as early as is possible! If you had applied straight away you WOULD have got a ticket.

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[fatboy]

FFS Isn't it time this one was put to bed? There is NO entirely fair way to distribute tickets. Why can't people just live it? Do people kick up a similar fuss if they can't get a table in their favourite restaurant? Next time it happens why don't you give them a call and tell them how much money you have spent with them and just how many times you have eaten on a Wednesday night. What about the cinema or theatre? Did you complain when you couldn't get into the first few showings of the new Star Wars films? Did you kick up a fuss about some of the ignorant newbies going in to watch the film; I bet some of them don't even know Luke's middle name.

If you think football is the same as the cinema or a restaurant then you are clearly not very passionate about supporting your team.

You can go to a restaurant or cinema at any time, not just at 3pm in a Saturday. Plus you can go to any restaurant or cinema; you can't pick and choose your football team.

If you want a ticket to game apply as early as is possible! If you had applied straight away you WOULD have got a ticket.

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No you wouldn't; demand exceeded supply.

 

[DJ Leon]

Eh?

Right each point in turn.

1. On this particular matter football is just like eating out or going to the cinema/theatre. Capacity is limited. When it's full, it's full. ACCEPT IT. If you can't you are gonna struggle with life. First come, first served is the basis on which most things (esp. tickets) are distributed. Being passionate about something has nothing whatsoever to do with it. This is how it works in the ticket shop:

2. They processed the tickets in the order applications were received. It wasn't done randomly! Accept some responsibility yourself for not getting a ticket.

 

[fatboy]

Eh?

Right each point in turn.

1. On this particular matter football is just like eating out or going to the cinema/theatre. Capacity is limited. When it's full, it's full. ACCEPT IT. If you can't you are gonna struggle with life. First come, first served is the basis on which most things (esp. tickets) are distributed. Being passionate about something has nothing whatsoever to do with it. This is how it works in the ticket shop:

Restaurants and cinemas are open all day. There is not only one meal sitting or film showing like there is at a football match. If the restaurant or cinema is full you can wait a few minutes for someone to finish their meal and leave or for the next film showing.

2. They processed the tickets in the order applications were received. It wasn't done randomly! Accept some responsibility yourself for not getting a ticket.

I have got a ticket.

If there are M-O-R-E applications then there are tickets B-Y the application deadline, then getting your application in O-N T-I-M-E will N-O-T guarantee you a ticket.

 

[DJ Leon]

Well, I don't really have anything more to say than I already have said. Yes, restaurants are open all day, but that's no good if you need to eat at 8pm with your girlfriend, who works up to that time. My point remains; first come first served basis applies, no one person is more deserving than the other. It is the only basis on which things like this can be run. You could also say there will be other football matches. I know that wouldn't exactly be popular, but there will be. The people that can't accept that are the people who are threatening people in the ticket shop.

Your second point ignores what I just said. They process applications in the order they receive them. Apply early enough and you will get a ticket. No, not everyone will, but hey that's life, I would like to go to every FA Cup final, but it's not going to happen.

 

[e77]

It annoys me a bit that some people are happy to go to the ends of the earth to follow the club but won't go to Withdean.

The socialist side of me thinks that it should be a first come, first served system, which is as close as we are going to get to a level playing field (possibly with a certain percentage held back for foreign based fans) but the capitalist season ticket holding side of me thinks that people who are willing to put money into the club (the season ticket holders) should be looked after.

In the meantime, get your applications in early !

 

[Beach Hut]

The 15,000 AMS members includes all previous season ticket holders.

I suspect if the club reviewed and updated this the AMS total would be reduced.

 

[sully]

My point remains; first come first served basis applies, no one person is more deserving than the other. It is the only basis on which things like this can be run.

I refer the honourable gentleman to TLB's posts above, which I wholly agree with.

 

[e77]

Speaking as a Season Ticket holder, if any system was introduced that gave priority to any other group then it would become a consideration when renewing.

 

[Zeitgeist]

I refer the honourable gentleman to TLB's posts above, which I wholly agree with.

Seconded. As LB says, "This football club appears to have got used to un-normality and weird arrangements".

 

[m20gull]

I'm not a season ticket holder anymore and I've got a Spurs ticket.

When I did have a season ticket at the Goldstone, priority for big games was the main reason I had one. My decision to stop having a season ticket was slightly perverse and based on the fact that, as I actually went to all the games, not having a season ticket gave the club more money. Of course, by then we were down to a small enough crowd where priority was not usually a problem.

I've never had a season ticket at Withdean and the only times I've missed out on an away ticket is when I haven't applied in time - my own fault.

My opinion is that season ticket holders should have priority - and when we have a proper stadium with a proper ticket office that's exactly what will happen.

 

[sullyshuffle]

we are Season Ticket holders and have contributed to the Alive & Kicking fund...yet have missed out on tickets for Spurs. To rub my nose in it as well, the letter was addressed as "Away member"...do they know what they are doing at the club?

So
a) What is the point of being a Season Ticket Holder if you don't get first option for the big games?

b) What is the point of using our hard earned cash to help the Club when it kicks you in the teeth?

I am awaiting a reply from our so called Chief Mr Perry. Like everything else run by this club, expect i will get the same old standard reply

 

[Keith B Wetherill]

season t/h vs away supporters

What a nonsense is talked here.The ONLY solution should be as with all other clubs and indeed as it always was before ie., Season ticket applications in the first couple of days and then away supporters.We as season ticket holders support this clubs cash flow by stumping up big money months before the season starts,what cash for this club does away supporters produce? (perhaps a one off fee of £10).
I don't begrudge away supporters at all but when my 3 season tickets are rejected for Spurs yet one guy I know for a fact gets FOUR tickets and yet only has one season ticket.
I think the club has seen us off once again and for the first time in my 50 odd years of support (and financially) I am completely fed up.

 

[DJ Leon]

So
a) What is the point of being a Season Ticket Holder if you don't get first option for the big games?

You get a guaranteed ticket for every home game. That's it. That is exactly what a season ticket is.

b) What is the point of using our hard earned cash to help the Club when it kicks you in the teeth?

I didn't see anything to suggest you would get any preferential treatment (or a Spurs ticket!) if you contributed to the A & K fund. Quite frankly it's a pretty dumb assumption.

I am awaiting a reply from our so called Chief Mr Perry. Like everything else run by this club, expect i will get the same old standard reply

That'll be the logical and common sense reply everyone else will get. Good.