Seaon ticket price FREEZE then

[Herne Hill Seagull]

I forgot NSC represents ALL Brighton fans.

It's a decent representative cross-section; we have male and female, young and old, season ticket holders, casual attenders, away regulars, internet followers.

I'd suggest it could reasonably be used as a barometer of how the support is thinking at any given time, notwithstanding the tendency of the vocally unhappy to slant the look and feel of the board into the negative some of the time.

The five month plan gives even poor out of work bods like me a chance of renewing, 'coz with any luck I'll have something sorted out before too long, so I say hurrah to it.

 

[Bwian]

There are equally examples of clubs who have charged less and are not broke...

Over to you then...

 

[Silent Bob]

Absolutely. Knotty has also hit the nail on the head. The reason thsi club is still running and we are able to fork out £150k and £300k on new players is because it is being run sensibly and this sensibility stretches to the pricing of Season tickets.

We are able to do that because we have some money behind the club, the same that plugs the hole made by our losses every year. A club 'run sensibly' on the kind of income we have would not be spending any money. We wouldn't be sacking managers with two years left on their contract for no particular reason, replacing them, and then sacking the replacement nine months into a three year contract. We should be grateful to these people because they have not only kept the club going but made it more successful than it has had a right to be over the last 10 years or so, but this is a pretty disappointing decision. It seems like the club have used "the great escape" to get out of reducing prices.
To me it seems complacent. They think if they freeze prices the same 4-5 thousand will pay up again, a few people will buy tickets every week and we'll be alright. I think in the lead up to Falmer, which we are now in (this will be the penultimate Withdean season) they should be doing a lot more to bring back fans new and old. Oh well.

 

[Mendoza]

Off the top of my head, I would guess that a 10 per cent reduction in season ticket prices would achieve at best a 5 per cent increase in sales of season tickets.

4,000 season tickets @ an average price of £400 brings in £1,600,000
4,200 season tickets @ an average price of £360 brings in £1,512,000

You'd have to increase sales by at least 11.1 per cent to be better off from a 10 per cent price reduction.

or release 14 players...............

 

[ali jenkins]

When we're top of the league and the withdean's packed, us STHs will be laughing

We could be unbeaten all season and the Withdean will only be packed the day we get the trophy!

And even then all the people that want tickets will be able to get them!

 

[Brighton Breezy]

It's a decent representative cross-section; we have male and female, young and old, season ticket holders, casual attenders, away regulars, internet followers.

I'd suggest it could reasonably be used as a barometer of how the support is thinking at any given time, notwithstanding the tendency of the vocally unhappy to slant the look and feel of the board into the negative some of the time.

The five month plan gives even poor out of work bods like me a chance of renewing, 'coz with any luck I'll have something sorted out before too long, so I say hurrah to it.

I would disagree. It is more representative of the full-time fan who lives and breathes Albion. Hence they spend a lot of their time on here discussing it.

NSC is not representative of the average fan who follows the club a little bit less full on and might be swayed by a cut-price ticket deal.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I possibly won't.

However, it is not as simple as that is it. If a lot of people decide they can no longer justify this expenditure, the club loses out.

Err .... yes - that's called supply and demand !

 

[Brighton Breezy]

Over to you then...

OK, teams in our division who charge less and seem fine:

Northampton League 1 £350.00
Millwall League 1 £329.00
Tranmere League 1 £304.00
Huddersfield League 1 £295.00

Teams who funded PROMOTION:
Leicester League 1 £303.00
Possibly....Scunthorpe League 1 £303.00

Selected others:

Doncaster Championship £280.00 - Recent new stadium to foot the bill for an had the cost of competing at a higher level.
Walsall League 1 £280.00 - Solvent.
Wycombe League 2 £280.00 - Promoted and in good shape.
Coventry Championship £277.00 - New ground in recent years being paid for still.
MK Dons League 1 £255.00 - Have a new ground they are financing and solid foundations for promotion despite having NO traditionally fan base.
Bristol Rovers League 1 £225.00 - Moving toward a new stadium.
Shrewsbury League 2 £225.00 - PROMOTED.
Gillingham League 2 £220.00 - Could be getting PROMOTED.

 

[siclean]

withdean...a crumpling old athletics ground, no atmosphere, hardly any singing, no roof in main stand, no parking nearby, stewards who act like hitlers, dire food, poor football etc and £24.00 + for a seat..rip off if you ask me

 

[bhadeb]

This is taken from The Sun in the pre season of the season just gone. Maybe a good indicator for this years, maybe not, just an interesting read

Arsenal Premiership £925.00
Liverpool Premiership £650.00
Tottenham Premiership £635.00
West Ham Premiership £615.00
Portsmouth Premiership £600.00
Newcastle Premiership £543.00
Chelsea Premiership £530.00
Cyrstal Palace Championship £525.00
Everton Premiership £503.00
Man Utd Premiership £494.00
Ipswich Championship £465.00
Man City Premiership £461.00
QPR Championship £450.00
Southampton Championship £450.00
Reading Championship £445.00
Leeds League 1 £440.00
Wolves Championship £432.00
Blackpool Championship £426.00
Brighton League 1 £426.00
Southend League 1 £420.00
Sunderland Premiership £415.00
Bristol City Championship £415.00
West Brom Premiership £399.00
Swansea Championship £399.00
Colchester League 1 £391.00
Middlesborough Premiership £390.00
Brentford League 2 £380.00
Oldham League 1 £379.00
Peterborough League 1 £375.00
Nottingham Forest Championship £374.00
Hull City Premiership £370.00
Sheff Wed Championship £366.00
Watford Championship £365.00
Hartlepool League 1 £354.00
Norwich Championship £350.00
Northampton League 1 £350.00
Stoke Premiership £349.00
Plymouth Championship £345.00
Preston Championship £345.00
Cardiff Championship £329.00
Millwall League 1 £329.00
Birmingham Championship £325.00
Derby Championship £320.00
Leyton Orient League 1 £320.00
Burnley Championship £315.00
Cheltenham League 1 £315.00
Exeter League 2 £315.00
Rotherham League 2 £308.00
Bury League 2 £305.00
Tranmere League 1 £304.00
Leicester League 1 £303.00
Scunthorpe League 1 £303.00
Macclesfield League 2 £300.00
Fulham Premiership £299.00
Bolton Premiership £299.00
Sheff Utd Championship £299.00
Yeovil League 1 £299.00
Huddersfield League 1 £295.00
Barnsley Championship £290.00
Charlton Championship £290.00
Chesterfield League 2 £290.00
Darlington League 2 £289.00
Crewe League 1 £285.00
Grimsby League 2 £285.00
Doncaster Championship £280.00
Walsall League 1 £280.00
Carlisle League 1 £280.00
Wycombe League 2 £280.00
Notts County League 2 £280.00
Coventry Championship £277.00
Blackburn Premiership £275.00
Aldershot League 2 £275.00
Chester League 2 £270.00
Morecombe League 2 £270.00
Swindon League 1 £269.00
Aston Villa Premiership £265.00
Rochdale League 2 £265.00
Lincoln League 2 £265.00
Hereford League 1 £260.00
MK Dons League 1 £255.00
Dagenham League 2 £255.00
Stockport League 1 £253.00
Wigan Premiership £250.00
Bournemouth League 2 £247.00
Accrington League 2 £230.00
Bristol Rovers League 1 £225.00
Shrewsbury League 2 £225.00
Barnet League 2 £225.00
Port Vale League 2 £225.00
Gillingham League 2 £220.00
Bradford League 2 £150.00
Luton League 2 Unavailable

I did early bird last season and that was £440.00 so these can't be our prices - mine is south stand centre

 

[bhadeb]

I did early bird last season and that was £440.00 so these can't be our prices - mine is south stand centre

Sorry checked it again £413.00

 

[ali jenkins]

I can see the point your making Rich and I do 100% agree with you that our STH do pay over the odds, but as others have said our costs are much much higher than any other League club.

I think I heard once that even if we sold out with full price Adults the club would still be LOOSING money!

 

[severnside gull]

We could be unbeaten all season and the Withdean will only be packed the day we get the trophy!

And even then all the people that want tickets will be able to get them!

actually palpably untrue given that many couldn't get a ticket for the Stockport game after a season of losing regularly at Withdean.

My view, for the little it is worth, is that the prices are high but justified by our unique circumstances and a price freeze with the ability to spread the cost plus better ticketting arrangements are positives overall. As a package I think it is fair and not at all disrespectful to fans. Of course I only pay full whacks on the gate because of where I live etc but if I were nearer Brighton I would be more than tempted by what is on offer.

 

[skipper734]

I think I paid about £250 ish for a West Stand ST in the late 70's early 80's. It was a stretch to find it, but what would that in real terms be worth today? I know that covers the golden period in the Clubs history, so far, and was well worth it.
BTW the prices for this coming season aren't frozen, they have gone up by 2.5% (VAT reduction.)

 

[Gritt23]

You'll regret that when you can't get a ticket for a big cup game or the play-offs come the end of the season.

Maybe I will, maybe I won't. I've always been of the belief that if you want to get a ticket for a big game, you get a ticket. You only miss out if you leave it too late, or don't try hard enough.

Looks like I'll be putting that to the test next season.

As reasons for renewing going, preferential treatment for big game tickets is pretty low on my list. If anything it was a hassle, because I could generally only get the 1 ticket with my ST anyway, and big games are the perfect chance to take my littl'un to a game that may bring him into the fold, so I would be after 2 tickets anyway, which weren't available through my ST.

 

[Gritt23]

I can see the point your making Rich and I do 100% agree with you that our STH do pay over the odds, but as others have said our costs are much much higher than any other League club.

I think I heard once that even if we sold out with full price Adults the club would still be LOOSING money!

That would suggest the club isn't being run very well then. Why are our costs so much higher, is it because we are paying off managers who either shouldn't have been sacked, or shouldn't have been hired in the first place?

 

[Icy Gull]

That would suggest the club isn't being run very well then. Why are our costs so much higher, is it because we are paying off managers who either shouldn't have been sacked, or shouldn't have been hired in the first place?

Renting not owning the ground that is the least attractive mostly uncovered shithole in the League would be a start of our problems wouldn't it?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

And only ONE MONTH to buy your seat back on Early Bird prices

BUT PAYMENTS CAN BE SPREAD OVER 5 MONTHS

A welcome move by the club IMHO

 

[Easy 10]

These prices just reflect the reality of playing at a rented athletics stadium. Most other clubs own their own grounds, have all their offices in one place, and as a result don't have to cover those kind of additional overheads that we do. And they're not funding a new stadium project. The numbers have been dropping off primarily, I think, because of Withdean Fatigue and the fact that we've not been challenging at the right end of the table for a few seasons now. You've got to come back to how much of a cut in price would be enough to attract a significant number of fans to invest in a season ticket again, and would we get enough of those to make up and surpass the lost revenue from the cut prices ? How much would they need to drop season ticket prices to attract a significant number of fans back ?

At the moment I'd guess we get around 3,500 paying (on average) say £400, raising £1,400,000
If we dropped it to £350, we'd need an extra 500 sales to bring in exactly the same revenue. Would £350 be low enough to bring in those extra 500 ST sales, or any more than that to increase the revenue ? If not, then how low have we got to go ? The club is working to a budget and will probably be investing quite heavily in the team this summer. I'm just not sure its realistic to expect significant price cuts under those circumstances.

We're STILL at a dump of a stadium
We're STILL in the 3rd division
We've been RUBBISH lately
I reckon even if we cut prices back to £300, we'd get some more bums on seats obviously, but we'd make a loss in terms of revenue. I'm sure the Directors have looked carefully at the numbers for this, and whilst a price slash would be hugely welcome for the fans, I guess the numbers just don't add up for them to be able to do that.

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

Slightly pissed off with having to pay £140 for the U21 prices despite being full-time at College, thus having virtually no time to work for the that kind of money, especially so when you see Charlton offering tickets to more precise brackets of young supports, i.e, no straight jump from U16 to U21 at the price of £75, but hey-ho, that's the way it is.