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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)



driddles

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Let's admire the ordinary Russians brave enough to turn out for Navalny's funeral. I hope they all stay safe.



I am pretty sure they are crisis actors bused in from Atlanta
The russian bots are incredibly active on social media today, saying things like it's all a photo op for the rest of the world, and these people aren't afraid until they are smacked in the face with a firm glove.
 




Eric the meek

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Apologies for the change of subject, but Putin has recently been even more belligerent than usual, so I thought it would help put some minds at rest by hearing from our UK Chief of the Defence Staff, Admiral Sir Tony Radakin.

I could list them below, but why don't you watch the video to find out the measures by which NATO outguns Russia?

 




Sirnormangall

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This article (free) cites a wider article on bloomberg (behind paywall).

Legal opinion (legal), Russian state assets only and not above value of damage caused.

Would have thought too that a good case could be made ( proceeds of crime) to seize the frozen assets of many of the oligarchs.
 














Eric the meek

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Gunfight in Ingushetia, just north of Georgia, and next door to Chechnya.



Edit: the replies are worth reading.
 
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Eric the meek

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Has the revolution begun I wonder?
Who knows? The problem with ethnic unrest across the Russian Federation is that it is naturally fragmented.

However, down in the Caucasus, the opposite is true. Ingushetia has the same ethnic make-up (in part) as the Chechen 'republic' next door, and they speak the same language - Nakh. According to one of the replies, from 2006-2008 there were violent attacks on ethnic Russians who were forced to leave the area. Putin won't want another Chechen war, with this time Ingushetians as well as Ukrainians taking the conflict to Moscow. That's not good optics for Vlad. Then there is Dagestan next door to Chechnya, which witnessed a mob hunt for Jews a while back. Konstantin Samoilov asked the question 'who will they go for when there are no Jews left?'. He answered 'they will go for the Russians'.
 




GT49er

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Could this be a 'Careful what you wish for' moment?

There are suggestions that these militants/rebels are basically IS or similar - Islamic extremists at any rate. If this is the case, will the poor people in these places be any better off under IS (or any other group of violent Islamic extremists) than they are under Putin? And will the world be any safer?
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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Could this be a 'Careful what you wish for' moment?

There are suggestions that these militants/rebels are basically IS or similar - Islamic extremists at any rate. If this is the case, will the poor people in these places be any better off under IS (or any other group of violent Islamic extremists) than they are under Putin? And will the world be any safer?
You're probably right. But given where we are it seems a risk worth wishing for
 


raymondo

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A good initiative from the Czechs 👍
 

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raymondo

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British intelligence say it is highly likely that Russia has grounded its A50 spy planes for fear of more of them getting shot down. (By friendly fire if you believe the Russian version of how the last one was downed). Bloody careless if you ask me.
Russia has announced they plan to restart production of A50s
 


Eric the meek

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Russia has announced they plan to restart production of A50s
Yes, I read that. I don't know why they announced that. It kind of proves the Ukrainians hit the bullseye, doesn't it?

Let's hope that Ukraine finds the factory where they will be made.

Let's also hope that the lead time to build them would be long, the parts very difficult and expensive to source, and the Ukrainians employ the manufacturing mantra of 'just in time' and blow it up on the eve of its first test flight.

I wouldn't put it past them.
 


raymondo

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Yes, I read that. I don't know why they announced that. It kind of proves the Ukrainians hit the bullseye, doesn't it?

Let's hope that Ukraine finds the factory where they will be made.

Let's also hope that the lead time to build them would be long, the parts very difficult and expensive to source, and the Ukrainians employ the manufacturing mantra of 'just in time' and blow it up on the eve of its first test flight.

I wouldn't put it past them.
Yes, all of that 👍. Indeed odd for the Russians to announce their severe shortage.
 


Eric the meek

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And another one.....

A railway bridge has been damaged over the Volga at Samara:


'Ukraine said it blew up a railway bridge in Russia’s southwestern Samara region on Monday because it was being used to transport “military cargo”.
The incident is the latest in a string of explosions targeting Russia’s rail network, which Kyiv says Moscow uses to move troops and equipment for its invasion of Ukraine.
“A railway bridge over the Chapaevka River in Russia’s Samara region was blown up. On 4 March 2024, at around 6:00 am (0200 GMT), the bridge was damaged by blowing up its support structures,” Ukraine’s military intelligence said.
Russia was using the railway line to transport ammunition from a plant in the town of Chapayevsk, it said.'
 






raymondo

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