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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)



raymondo

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Joe Blogs reports that the russian naval base at Tartus (the Med) has been emptied because of the rebel advances in Syria.
Possible it's an exercise, but also could be a formal withdrawal.
 




Eric the meek

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Sky news digest:

I would draw your attention to this article (read down to the bottom):
'Russia's new hypersonic missile was carefully planned to scare West before Putin's 'surprise' -

Both the Oreshnik missile and the overheard phone call to Zakharova were elements of maskirovka.

 


happypig

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Sky news digest:

I would draw your attention to this article (read down to the bottom):
'Russia's new hypersonic missile was carefully planned to scare West before Putin's 'surprise' -

Both the Oreshnik missile and the overheard phone call to Zakharova were elements of maskirovka.

Firing on German helicopter should elicit a proper response, lob a couple of missiles at the offending warship. Give them a bloody nose.
 


fly high

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Firing on German helicopter should elicit a proper response, lob a couple of missiles at the offending warship. Give them a bloody nose.
They didn't actually fire munition at the helicopter, it was none lethal signal ammunition so no not a good idea to lob missiles at them, maybe fire back their own signal ammunition.
 


happypig

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They didn't actually fire munition at the helicopter, it was none lethal signal ammunition so no not a good idea to lob missiles at them, maybe fire back their own signal ammunition.
It's Russia being Billy Big Bollocks. A swift response would take them down a peg.
 






Eric the meek

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It's Russia being Billy Big Bollocks. A swift response would take them down a peg.
Hold fire tiger. They might be probing to find out things like response times, or whether the aircraft is allowed to release missiles autonomously. They might be listening in, to determine amongst other things, where the message is being received and relayed.

It may be that the best response is the one that gives the least amount of information to Russia, i.e. do nothing.
 


Triggaaar

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They didn't actually fire munition at the helicopter, it was none lethal signal ammunition so no not a good idea to lob missiles at them, maybe fire back their own signal ammunition.

Nah. Sink 'em.
 








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Found this article. Not sure how old it is but interesting.

Why have nearly 300 russian FPV pilots been killed while attempting to arm their VT-40 drones? ⚠️🫣💥

Well, according to this russian engineer, it’s because Sudoplatov (an FPV drone manufacturer) moved away from using the traditional 2.4 & 5.8ghz frequencies for VTX and instead opted to use 1.4ghz to avoid jamming. This means that with the powerful 1.2 watt transmitter, a deadly emf field was radiating around the antenna.
So, as soon as the UAV was switched on, the emf was strong enough to trigger the magnetic detonator on the RPG warheads.

Here’s what the Russian engineer had to say-
“In the last few months, when launching FPV VT-40 Sudoplatov, there have been more frequent cases of charges being initiated during drone launch. There are quite a few dead and wounded.
Considering that it takes a considerable amount of time to train a good FPV operator, these losses are especially noticeable. Among the dead are operators of very serious units and services.

The reason is in the new versions of VT-40, or more specifically, in their video transmitters operating at lower frequencies than before. They create a field sufficient to initiate an electric detonator.

That is, the VT-40 Sudoplatov - Judgment Day FPV drones currently supplied to the Front are actually dangerous.”
Just goes to show, that you can’t trust a kamikaze drone!
 




Eeyore

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Well done Malta. A gentle people, who don't deserve any Russians anywhere near their country.

And especially not a member of the Russian government at the OSCE (Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe) Council of Foreign Ministers.


Maltese, a gentle people ? They're like Italians on the marching powder. Delightful, warm, hospitable. Just don't piss them off. They kicked us out in 1979, and we weren't going to challenge it.

My Dad spent quite a lot of time there in the navy during the 40s/50s. I went in the 1990s. Great islands.
 


Eric the meek

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Maltese, a gentle people ? They're like Italians on the marching powder. Delightful, warm, hospitable. Just don't piss them off. They kicked us out in 1979, and we weren't going to challenge it.
My mum was married to a Maltese. He was a gentleman, and generous in spirit. His extended family were the same.
 


Eeyore

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My mum was married to a Maltese. He was a gentleman, and generous in spirit. His extended family were the same.
Oh they are indeed. That's the point. But they are made of steel too. Must be the most invaded nation in history. They are quite well disposed towards Brits, grudgingly tolerant of Italians. Germans, well...

An old boss of mine was Maltese. Beautiful woman. Perfect representation. Kind hearted, understanding, but crikey, you didn't piss her off. Not surprised they've told the Russians where to go.

This is a nation whose grand total of six tiny fighter aircraft terrorised the Italians in the Second World War and still held out despite being absolutely carpeted by the Axis.
 
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GT49er

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Maltese, a gentle people ? They're like Italians on the marching powder. Delightful, warm, hospitable. Just don't piss them off. They kicked us out in 1979, and we weren't going to challenge it.
No they didn't. Following independence and later opting to become a republic (but still remaining in friendship in the Commonwealth), our troops were stationed there by a mutual agreement, which ended in 1979. When the agreement came to an end, we left, as stipulated in the agreement. No kicking involved.
 


Eeyore

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No they didn't. Following independence and later opting to become a republic (but still remaining in friendship in the Commonwealth), our troops were stationed there by a mutual agreement, which ended in 1979. When the agreement came to an end, we left, as stipulated in the agreement. No kicking involved.
Mintoff had wanted the UK to leave and they were going to, and began to. The only reason they were able to stay until 1979 was because a new agreement was struck for substantially increased payments. Mintoff was a clever operator. It's an interesting history. My Dad loved Malta and spoke of it often. But as I said, despite the shenanigans, it was always an island well disposed towards us.
 


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