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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)











happypig

Staring at the rude boys
May 23, 2009
8,227
Eastbourne
Knowing little of these things, is there a point at which the Russian economy suddenly collapses or is it a slow, inevitable decline ?
 








aftershavedave

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
7,186
as 10cc say, not in hove
Knowing little of these things, is there a point at which the Russian economy suddenly collapses or is it a slow, inevitable decline ?
It collapses when market forces continue to drive down value and the Russians (or allies) can't afford to support. That's when things get interesting, and the slide will accelerate in that scenario, but at the moment it's pulled back again. Interesting to see what happens next
 






Mackenzie

Old Brightonian
Nov 7, 2003
34,125
East Wales
Will this ruble collapse end Putin ?
It won’t help his war effort, any weapons he imports have got 8% more expensive in the past few hours. The powerful oligarchs are losing wealth at an alarming rate, the Russian population will be finding that food will be more and more expensive in the shops. It increases the pressure on Putin from within Russia.
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,632
Goldstone
In that yahoo graph above, the cliff-edge recoveries are presumably interventions, which are not working

It'll often just be like a standard commodity, where people will think it's fallen enough and may recover a bit. Things rarely fall without any bouncing back along the way.
 










raymondo

Well-known member
Apr 26, 2017
7,670
Wiltshire
Why does the bullshit, blatant propaganda claim that Biden is planning to give nuclear weapons to Ukraine being repeated in the mainstream media?! I hate the uncritical way that so-called journalists basically say 'Putin says...' and call that news. :mad:
Agree totally. There's a difference between being objective in reporting and being stupid...and a lot of our media don't get that.
 














Mackenzie

Old Brightonian
Nov 7, 2003
34,125
East Wales
You wouldn't have thought anyone would be holding that many virtually worthless rubles, to be able to sell them, to achieve a swing of that magnitude, would you?
Well there are some very wealthy individuals, and organisations, with links to Russia. I guess someone is doing alright out of this somewhere.
 




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