Maybe N Korea's involvement will result in S Korea becoming a major provider of shells etc to Ukraine
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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
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The Clamp
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We are unlikely to see NK troops on the frontline.
The language barrier, lack of recent military experience, and lack of available troops would be the main barriers.
More likely they will be behind the scenes. Engineers, logistics etc
Freeing more Russian cannon fodder up to go and get turned into mince on the various fronts.
Although, I suppose the Russian generals could just put a gun in the NK troops hands and kindly point them towards incoming artillery fire.
The language barrier, lack of recent military experience, and lack of available troops would be the main barriers.
More likely they will be behind the scenes. Engineers, logistics etc
Freeing more Russian cannon fodder up to go and get turned into mince on the various fronts.
Although, I suppose the Russian generals could just put a gun in the NK troops hands and kindly point them towards incoming artillery fire.
- Aug 24, 2020
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and "IF North Korean troops are seen on the front line".
Why do the allies keep putting our own barriers in the way of effective support
The Clamp
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Too much reacting to what the enemy is doing.and "IF North Korean troops are seen on the front line".
Why do the allies keep putting our own barriers in the way of effective support
They need to get on the offensive. Take the fight to them.
Exactly - the west needs to act, and allow Ukraine to act, the same as Russia (without the civilian atrocities).
I'm finding it laughable the more I think about post 17127. How will there be proof to South Korea that any North Korean troops are seen on the front line? They are unlikely to be wearing their own uniforms. Their facial looks could have similarities to the ethnic minorities Russia mobilises from its Eastern provinces
. Maybe they'll be kind enough to wave their flags, or Kim will announce it on TV.Still, I hope European countries are at least buying shells from South Korea for Ukraine.
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An interesting if, ultimately, unsurprising report.
So, if Iran goes nuclear then the US won't knock out their missiles ... there's an incentive for them.
Re the Russian missiles and drones that stray into Poland and Romanian air space...ffs NATO, let those countries shoot them down at least.
www.politico.eu
So, if Iran goes nuclear then the US won't knock out their missiles ... there's an incentive for them.
Re the Russian missiles and drones that stray into Poland and Romanian air space...ffs NATO, let those countries shoot them down at least.
Ukraine bridles at no-holds-barred US support for Israel
Kyiv wants the US to down Russian rockets, but the “tough answer” for Ukraine is that Russia has nuclear weapons, while Iran does not.
www.politico.eu
Bravo Zelensky, may have been a year ago! But no mincing of words and calling Putin out for exactly what he is
It's a good reminder of the amazing strength and energy of this man
I struggle to think of a more impressive person in the last 100 years tbhIt's a good reminder of the amazing strength and energy of this man
- Aug 24, 2020
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His courage on the night of the invasion, broadcasting from the streets of Kyiv, was the most powerful and iconic signal to his countrymen and women.
Quite simply, he saved Ukraine.
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I've aged well!You're older than you look.
Spot on- and against the most enormous odds.
Especially taking his background into account, to deal with this appalling war with such an incredible combination of dignity, passion, ability and energy is unbelievable. I can't begin to imagine the strain he must have been and continue to be under every minute of every day.
I hope with all my heart that Ukraine prevail
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Has served his country with honour, passion and pride. Such a remarkable man under extreme pressure.
And Zelenskiy cares about his people, really cares - this is an immense additional daily strain that Putin certainly doesn't have.
The only part of his earlier acting/comedy career that helped prepare Zelenskiy for this role (IMO) was his ability to communicate and his (and his colleagues) ability to frame certain early videos/announcements well (and sincerely).
No training in politics, military, international relations... He's summoned it all from within. A true leader.
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'Ukraine will become 33rd or 34th member of NATO' — Mark Rutte
Linked article:
hromadske.ua
But note the last sentence:
'However, US envoy to NATO Julianne Smith earlier noted that NATO does not plan to invite Ukraine to join the Alliance in the near future.'
I'm hoping that this ambiguity in the public domain is intentional. Perhaps the threat of Ukraine joining NATO is worth delaying pulling the lever.
Edit: 33rd or 34th raises the question, who else is in the frame? Moldova? Georgia?
Linked article:
Ukraine will become 33rd or 34th member of NATO — Mark Rutte
Ukraine could become the 33rd or 34th member of the North Atlantic Alliance, which currently has 32 members, the recently appointed Secretary General of NATO, Mark Rutte, said during a press conference with journalists in Brussels.
hromadske.ua
But note the last sentence:
'However, US envoy to NATO Julianne Smith earlier noted that NATO does not plan to invite Ukraine to join the Alliance in the near future.'
I'm hoping that this ambiguity in the public domain is intentional. Perhaps the threat of Ukraine joining NATO is worth delaying pulling the lever.
Edit: 33rd or 34th raises the question, who else is in the frame? Moldova? Georgia?
'Ukraine will become 33rd or 34th member of NATO' — Mark Rutte
Linked article:
Ukraine will become 33rd or 34th member of NATO — Mark Rutte
Ukraine could become the 33rd or 34th member of the North Atlantic Alliance, which currently has 32 members, the recently appointed Secretary General of NATO, Mark Rutte, said during a press conference with journalists in Brussels.
But note the last sentence:
'However, US envoy to NATO Julianne Smith earlier noted that NATO does not plan to invite Ukraine to join the Alliance in the near future.'
I'm hoping that this ambiguity in the public domain is intentional. Perhaps the threat of Ukraine joining NATO is worth delaying pulling the lever.
Edit: 33rd or 34th raises the question, who else is in the frame? Moldova? Georgia?
Georgia unlikely with the Russian occupation/ neighborhood. Moldova, yes could be.
If Trump gets in of course all the puzzle pieces could get thrown up in the air.
Putin won't want Moldova in so Trump wouldn't allow it.
If Moldova were invited then Russia will cause immense trouble in Transnistria.
The more I think about it, maybe Rutte means the Vatican as 33
