[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[Vin]

Getting the orcs to use their own precious ammo to shoot down their own aircraft. That is beyond brilliant.

Someone should write a book on the ingenuity of Ukrainians. I am so, so impressed with them.

The Russian AD is working, but it’s targeting it’s own aircraft

 

[Triggaaar]

U not see what happened in Salisbury! U would risk the safety of your children, u r such a brave keyboard warrior!!!

It's not being a keyboard warrior, I'm asking questions. Is there definitely no way he can get his family safe (you haven't answered).

 

[Surport Local Team]

It's not being a keyboard warrior, I'm asking questions. Is there definitely no way he can get his family safe (you haven't answered).

OK, I will answer. No! They would always be looking over there shoulder, does a dad want that for his children!!! After all he has already sold himself out after last election!

 

[Triggaaar]

OK, I will answer. No! They would always be looking over there shoulder, does a dad want that for his children!!! After all he has already sold himself out after last election!

Putin won't live forever, Russia will move on.

What about Zelensky's children - why has he risked their lives?

 

[raymondo]

Suggestions emerging that the downing of the four aircraft, (yes, all four of them, on a 25 mile wide circle), could have been.........friendly fire.

Wagner mercenary boss suggests Russia may have downed its own military aircraft

The head of Russia’s feared Wagner private army has suggested that four Russian military aircraft that reportedly crashed in a region that borders Ukraine may have been shot down by Russia’s own forces

abcnews.go.com

Russians eh?

Yep, Russia's air defence systems are first class

 

[Surport Local Team]

Putin won't live forever, Russia will move on.

What about Zelensky's children - why has he risked their lives?

U on the "what abouterary"? Already!!!! ? Big difference, Zelensky has never been on Putin side, whereas Lukashenko would be betraying Putin. Betral alway recieves a greater punishiment.
Anyway tired now of to bed , enjoy ur evening !!! UTA

 

[Triggaaar]

U on the "what abouterary"? Already!!!! ?

I'm not sure you understand what 'whataboutery' means. When someone does something wrong (like Russia invading Ukraine) and examples of what another has done wrong are used to justify something which can't be justified, that's 'whatabutery'. Here we're discussing how much risk Lukashenko's children would be in, so it seems right to look at other examples.

Big difference, Zelensky has never been on Putin side, whereas Lukashenko would be betraying Putin. Betral alway recieves a greater punishiment.

Yes that's probably true, but I'm not convinced that protecting them is impossible.

We'll see.

 

[sparkie]

Talking about children of these individuals, I read ( and it may be made up again ) that the son of the Belarusian 2nd in line to Lukashenko is studying in..... Moscow. That'd be handy for Putin.

 

[jakarta]

Zelensky now in the UK, presume he wants some of our 'retired' Typhoons?

 

[beorhthelm]

Zelensky now in the UK, presume he wants some of our 'retired' Typhoons?

they're retired for a reason - not very good - and wouldn't be viable with necessary training and engineering support.

 

[Igzilla]

 

[peterward]

If anyone has 48 minutes to spare, I'd throughly recommend the first full interview with Ukraines general commander of forces Valeryii Zaluzhny. Known as the "iron General" he's a bloody hero, human, compassionate, humble as we'll as clever and ruthlessly determined.

English subtitles, interview starts about 3 mins in.

 

[raymondo]

Interesting article on air defence, and the last para highlights how the systems can also be used to support a counteroffensive.

The 'onion rings' of defences protecting Ukraine's cities from Russian missiles

Kremlin forces launched 18 missiles at Kyiv on Tuesday. All of them were shot down, Ukraine's air forces says. What behind the hugely successful air defences now protecting Ukraine's cities?

news.sky.com

 

[raymondo]

If anyone has 48 minutes to spare, I'd throughly recommend the first full interview with Ukraines general commander of forces Valeryii Zaluzhny. Known as the "iron General" he's a bloody hero, human, compassionate, humble as we'll as clever and ruthlessly determined.

English subtitles, interview starts about 3 mins in.

I've just watched that brilliant interview. Thank you. Zaluzhny has such clarity of thought... he's amazing. As I listened I couldn't help thinking ' give them the fighter jets'.

 

[Triggaaar]

Zelensky now in the UK, presume he wants some of our 'retired' Typhoons?

Is he gonna fly them all back himself?

 

[jakarta]

Is he gonna fly them all back himself?

Apparently it will be F-16s instead...

 

[sparkie]

200K+ Russian soldiers/convicts/mobilised have now bitten the dust.

They just need to go back to Russia before it reaches 300K, 400K etc.

 

[schmunk]

Is he gonna fly them all back himself?

Just need a bit of rope to string them together...

 

[raymondo]

Remember that lonely tank at Moscow's recent military parade?... well here it is (hopefully...according to the account). That'll be off-to-the-gulag for the conscript driver.

 

[sparkie]