[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[A1X]

You wonder how the likes of Reagan would have reacted to the modern day Republicans essentially taking Russia’s side

 

[Weststander]

Behind a (worth it, imho) paywall:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...deplore-ageing-aluminium-can-combat-vehicles/

A small snippet - In October Russia were losing more than 40 armoured vehicles per day, roughly equivalent to a battalion’s worth of equipment.

 

[GT49er]

You wonder how the likes of Reagan would have reacted to the modern day Republicans essentially taking Russia’s side

And to think that at the time I thought that Regan was a prat! Would welcome back that sort of republican with open arms now!

 

[knocky1]

You wonder how the likes of Reagan would have reacted to the modern day Republicans essentially taking Russia’s side

He'd have been with them. His Russia was part of the Communist Soviet Union. Putin's Russia is a well to the Right Dictatorship.
This doesn't help explain why Boris ditched his love affair with Russia after the invasion of Ukraine.

 

[GT49er]

He'd have been with them. His Russia was part of the Communist Soviet Union. Putin's Russia is a well to the Right Dictatorship.
This doesn't help explain why Boris ditched his love affair with Russia after the invasion of Ukraine.

Maybe, just maybe, that root of all evil and embodiment of Satan that is Boris Pfaffing Johnson is a believer in democracy.......



Who'da thunk it?

 

[sparkie]

Maybe, just maybe, that root of all evil and embodiment of Satan that is Boris Pfaffing Johnson is a believer in democracy.......



Who'da thunk it?

Putin is the root of all evil and embodiment of Satan.


Johnson is just a selfish twit.

 

[A1X]

And to think that at the time I thought that Regan was a prat! Would welcome back that sort of republican with open arms now!

The really, really dumb thing is even if the American right aren’t that fussed about Ukraine it’s turning into an absolutely fantastic opportunity for the American defence industry to see how their stuff actually works in the field against a load of Russian equipment, so they must be absolutely loving it while also funding the Republicans.

 

[beorhthelm]

He'd have been with them. His Russia was part of the Communist Soviet Union. Putin's Russia is a well to the Right Dictatorship.
This doesn't help explain why Boris ditched his love affair with Russia after the invasion of Ukraine.

easy, Boris never had a love of Russia, just associated with a few Russians. opponents of Putin too.

 

[Weststander]

easy, Boris never had a love of Russia, just associated with a few Russians. opponents of Putin too.

The Oligarchs appeared in London in the noughties.

 

[essbee1]

A few less to care/worry about

 

[Theatre of Trees]

This doesn't help explain why Boris ditched his love affair with Russia after the invasion of Ukraine.

Because in his Churchillian replicating mind it elevated him from Johnson the national politician to Johnson the world statesman

 

[GT49er]

Putin is the root of all evil and embodiment of Satan.


Johnson is just a selfish twit.

If it wasn't for your 10,000 plus posts. I'd think you were new to NSC .........................

 

[Hugo Rune]

This from Cliffe yesterday:

You have to burn Putin but the detail and quality of that effigy is extraordinary.

 

[Brovion]

He'd have been with them. His Russia was part of the Communist Soviet Union. Putin's Russia is a well to the Right Dictatorship.
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Yes, I think so too. I don't want to say anything good about right-wing Republicans but at least they acknowledge that the world has changed. In the 80s Russia was part of the Soviet Union, was avowedly Communist and was therefore to be opposed as the enemy. Now it it's a nasty, aggressive right-wing dictatorship so naturally they support it and welcome its conversion. This change has, sadly, been ignored by a lot of supposedly 'progressive' Europeans. Russia still sees NATO as its enemy and that's all that matters.

 

[Eric the meek]

Former MI6 chief predicts how the war in Ukraine will end:



"Western policy is for this to end in a way that it actually has finished rather than just provided Putin with some kind of frozen conflict."
"Putin will not stop until "he is fought to a standstill".

Sobering stuff.

 

[sparkie]

I'm really interested in how many mobilised Russian deaths it will take for Putin to swing from a lamp post.

200K ? 300K ? 1 million ?

One thing is for sure - the numbers will never stop rising until he retreats back to Russia.

 

[Sirnormangall]

I'm really interested in how many mobilised Russian deaths it will take for Putin to swing from a lamp post.

200K ? 300K ? 1 million ?

One thing is for sure - the numbers will never stop rising until he retreats back to Russia.

What are the latest estimates - 100k?

 

[sparkie]

What are the latest estimates - 100k?

Last I saw was 80K but that's out of date.

The mobilised amateurs are being cut to pieces though. Hundreds a day sacrificed. Step back and that is another tragedy of this pointless war.

 

[Eric the meek]

Last I saw was 80K but that's out of date.

The mobilised amateurs are being cut to pieces though. Hundreds a day sacrificed. Step back and that is another tragedy of this pointless war.

Sky reporting the same, at least in Bakhmut:



As an aside, there is some new, very nasty Russian tactics being reported at 05:00 onwards - Russian TV crews arriving to film Ukrainians attacking fellow 'Ukrainians'.

 

[Weststander]

Last I saw was 80K but that's out of date.

The mobilised amateurs are being cut to pieces though. Hundreds a day sacrificed. Step back and that is another tragedy of this pointless war.

The Telegraph reported similar.

Hastily assembled battalions of until weeks ago civilians, thrust to the front line, then their officers run away! The rest are sitting ducks, or cleverly surrender.