[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[Baldseagull]

Either way, surely it plays into Russian hands in the sense that they can say that the west is censoring the ‘truth’. Who in the UK was watching it anyway?

Jolly Red Giant maybe?

 

[Icy Gull]

I am happy to condemn any atrocities of the British Army, but not on this thread.

Exactly

 

[The Maharajah Of Hockley]

Such a shame. This thread started out being a great place to stay on top of the latest developments and now it's turned into a massive BINFEST.

 

[jakarta]

Mods, any chance we can ban this guy? At least from this thread?

Yeah I’m a Nazi too

Have already reported him.

 

[GT49er]

Mods, any chance we can ban this guy? At least from this thread?

Yeah I’m a Nazi too

Compared to that prat we're all nazis mate - in his eyes anyway!

 

[portlock seagull]

May I ask how expensive it is to get this to Poland, where it's needed? I was shocked to see a van being loaded in Leeds, which they said would cost £2k to get to the refugees. They went on to say it was better for people to donate money, rather than items, which could be spent locally, rather than driven such a long way.

People need to stop giving physical stuff and instead donate money. Quicker, safer and more cost effective. It’s lovely and heart warming to so the former but actually beginning to cause problems as the scale of this gets bigger by the hour.

I know some have said they can’t afford cash donation, but I bet there’s also a load of old junk being palmed off which will be problematic just as it is at charity shops. You’d be amazed at what people “donate”, sometimes it’s literally crap and costs money to clear up and dispose of! Not exactly what is call charitable.

 

[jakarta]

Excellent, well done!

Have you spoken to Asda and the like re donations? Tesco support local charities and whilst I have not heard anything from them re local collections for Ukraine, it may well be worth asking.

Now £2511, a lot of NSCer's have donated, well done to all.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Millions - and as a socialist I utterly condemn the actions of the Stalinist regime.

Now -

will you join me in condemning the atrocities committed my Winston Churchill when he used poison gas on Kurds and Afghans in 1919 and when he ordered British troops supporting the White counter-revolution in Russia to drop poison gas bombs on peasnat villages supporting the Bolsheviks during the Russian Civil War ?

will you join with me in condemning the murder of innocent civilians, facilitated by the gvovernment of Ted Heath, by British troops in Ballymurphy in Belfast in August 1971 and in Derry on Bloody Sunday in January 1972?

Can you open another thread about these incidents rather than de-rail this one ?

 

[Questions]

We have to strangulate their economy asap… We’re not going in with guns so we have to accept hardships now….. strangulate…

We then need to look at what we’ve done.

 

[portlock seagull]

I'm still struggling to comprehend how Putin has described the Jewish President of Ukraine as a " Nazi drug addict " ..oh and actually seems to believe this !

Well, if you recall the biggest lying sociopathic scumbag you’ve ever met or known (Bill Archer for example) and multiply by a thousand then you’re getting closer to Putin and his warped way of thinking!

The word troll should be replaced by Putin in everyday language.

 

[Baldseagull]

I am a long way from been a cosy Tory but but so boring hearing from so many that just want to criticise government in such a difficult situation

I would like there to be less opportunity for criticism, there is a fair degree of urgency in sanctions, in that if you tell Oligarchs their assets are going to be frozen, they might think to move them somewhere you can't touch them. Not easy with a Mansion on Regents Park, but yachts and the like have an inbuilt degree of portability.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

People should take note of the now hundreds of reports of both Ukrainian and Polish border guards battering people of colour out off the queues of refugees attempting to escape Ukraine - physically battering them with clubs and iron bars - men, women and children. Not surprising given the known role of fascist elements within the Ukrainian military and the racist anti-immigrant policies of the Polish government.

Seriously **** off Putin fan boy.

 

[drew]

He said nothing of the sort, just told you to **** off, that's all. I think you're reading too much in to what just might be a common sentiment.

He's Irish and has an Irish/anti British agenda.

I'm surprised he hasn't yet suggested that if Zelenskyy get's taken down then Hughton should be his replacement.

 

[1066familyman]

Either way, surely it plays into Russian hands in the sense that they can say that the west is censoring the ‘truth’. Who in the UK was watching it anyway?

Exactly!

Regarding your first point that is.

 

[jakarta]

He's Irish and has an Irish/anti British agenda.

I'm surprised he hasn't yet suggested that if Zelenskyy get's taken down then Hughton should be his replacement.

Given how popular his contribution to this thread has been I suggest he may well be taking a Holiday from NSC.

I'm not a Mod but can I suggest a permanent one might be best?

 

[dazzer6666]

He's Irish and has an Irish/anti British agenda.

I'm surprised he hasn't yet suggested that if Zelenskyy get's taken down then Hughton should be his replacement.

LOL....could do a job. Very good at organising the defence against a much stronger outfit ?

 

[vegster]

People need to stop giving physical stuff and instead donate money. Quicker, safer and more cost effective. It’s lovely and heart warming to so the former but actually beginning to cause problems as the scale of this gets bigger by the hour.

I know some have said they can’t afford cash donation, but I bet there’s also a load of old junk being palmed off which will be problematic just as it is at charity shops. You’d be amazed at what people “donate”, sometimes it’s literally crap and costs money to clear up and dispose of! Not exactly what is call charitable.

Indeed cash is King. I'm going to donate tonight to the Red Cross appeal.

 

[Questions]

Indeed cash is King. I'm going to donate tonight to the Red Cross appeal.

You see the trouble you’ve caused with this thread

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Millions - and as a socialist I utterly condemn the actions of the Stalinist regime.

Now -

will you join me in condemning the atrocities committed my Winston Churchill when he used poison gas on Kurds and Afghans in 1919 and when he ordered British troops supporting the White counter-revolution in Russia to drop poison gas bombs on peasnat villages supporting the Bolsheviks during the Russian Civil War ?

will you join with me in condemning the murder of innocent civilians, facilitated by the gvovernment of Ted Heath, by British troops in Ballymurphy in Belfast in August 1971 and in Derry on Bloody Sunday in January 1972?

No because this about Ukraine.


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[Simster]

Looks like you've just proved his point. Just can't let it go, even in times like this, eh?

Can't let what go? As [MENTION=23343]Baldseagull[/MENTION] says, it would be nice to have less ammunition to criticize our crap government with.

Oh and by the way, your post proves you're no better than me - just so that you know.