Exactly... shopping centers, hospitals, individual citizens by drone in Kherson, all war crimes.
I want to see a list of Ukrainian demands.
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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
- Thread starter vegster
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I want to see a list of Ukrainian demands.
No. And you'd hope that Trump is annoyed with Putin for not agreeing in full to 'his' plan. It looks to me very much like Putin has agreed to the original plan put forward by Zelensky, before Trump got Ukraine to agree to more.
Russia will have asked for this because Ukraine are causing them huge problems, while Russia are busy killing civilians. Russia have asked for it because it's good for them, and bad for Ukraine. So Ukraine should say no, it's a ceasefire with no conditions, or it's not a ceasefire.
- Aug 24, 2020
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Repatriation of the stolen children?
That should be demanded, repeatedly, ad nauseum, to Trump, so that the brutality of the Russians is inescapable for Trump and his transactional isolationists.
Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
Hang your head in shame.
- Aug 24, 2020
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This post is in danger of becoming a meme on this thread.
- Nov 11, 2009
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Exactly this..... Ukrainian society is united. If Putin turns out the electrics, they'll struggle on with candles.
When Ukraine hits a refinery it affects the state coffers and Putins ability to bankroll his genocide
All or nothing.
Exactly, the usual Kremlin manipulation...which they are good at.
- Aug 24, 2020
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That last tweet demonstrates the extent to which Russia is determined to keep to the terms of the ceasefire. Answer: not to the slightest degree.
Motogull
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- Sep 16, 2005
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Or put another way, the floundering invasion attempt will continue with the invaded country continuing with its efforts to repel.
I don't think the limited ceasefire has actually started yet?
- Aug 24, 2020
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The conclusion is the same. Russia is cramming in the attacks on Ukrainian energy infrastructure before the limited ceasefire begins.
Not really embracing both the letter and the spirit of the ceasefire is it?
- Nov 11, 2009
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Well if that's the case, Ukraine should launch a huge barrage too
Nobby
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- Sep 29, 2007
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They’ll just say. It wasn’t us
I don't see what's good about it, unless they have a friendly audience. They're equivalent to a rapist saying their victim shouldn't have worn sexy clothes.
- Aug 24, 2020
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There's an argument for Ukraine maintaining the high moral ground. I'm sure they have a long list of targets across Russia which would not break the ceasefire agreement.
No doubt. Which is why a ceasefire is pointless. Russia will always approach it with zero integrity. Ukrainians will know this.
The only advantage of getting Russia to agree a ceasefire is to highlight their inability and unwillingness to keep to it. They can't be trusted. Whether Trump & Co will listen is another matter.
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Sirnormangall
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What a load of tosh. Trump can’t admit that he’s failed with Putin. All he’s got is a limited ceasefire agreement - probably after begging Putin to at least give him something that he can present to the world as a success. And unless I missed it, Donald made no mention in his statement about the fate of the encircled Ukrainian soldiers that he was trying to save.
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
My phone conversation today with President Putin of Russia was a very good and productive one. We agreed to an immediate Ceasefire on all Energy and Infrastructure, with an understanding that we will be working quickly to have a Complete Ceasefire and, ultimately, an END to this very horrible...truthsocial.com
It p1sses me off immensely that he thinks everyone who listens to him and / or reads what he or his government says has the same level of Neanderthal intelligence as his MAGA followers. But it’s becoming increasingly obvious that he’s being played by Putin.