[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[Triggaaar]

You sound like you are checking out Amazon for a bumper order of white feathers.

That doesn’t change the fact though that Europe is militarily unprepared for war with Russia. Its populations, ours included (in my opinion) are also not ready to join the armed forces let alone fight an attritional war with Russia.

If raising these very real problems makes me a “defeatist” so be it……I am pretty sure if Starmer wants the nation to rally to the colours to fight in Ukraine there will be many more people like me than you.

@SouthSaxon said "Stop telling the thread over and over what problems, real or hypothetical, you see and start telling us what you think should be done."

Can you do that?

 

[fly high]

@SouthSaxon said "Stop telling the thread over and over what problems, real or hypothetical, you see and start telling us what you think should be done."

Can you do that?

No he is incapable, just spouts his Farage/Trump tripe.

 

[The Clamp]

Great but makes the UK feel very alone over here. Out of the EU. The US is no longer our ally.

Lack of foresight: it’s our specialty.

‘Watershed moment’: EU leaders close to agreeing €800bn defence plan

Show of unity over Ukraine may be hampered by Hungary’s Viktor Orbán but consensus has built on need for spending

www.theguardian.com

 

[Pavilionaire]

Real classy from Russia to attack a hotel in Zelenskyy's home town where 4 lie dead and - amongst other - 2 US volunteers barely escaped with their lives. Is Trump OK with all of this?!

 

[raymondo]

Great but makes the UK feel very alone over here. Out of the EU. The US is no longer our ally.

Lack of foresight: it’s our specialty.

‘Watershed moment’: EU leaders close to agreeing €800bn defence plan

Show of unity over Ukraine may be hampered by Hungary’s Viktor Orbán but consensus has built on need for spending

www.theguardian.com

I think we'll be involved fairly equally... time will tell

 

[SouthSaxon]

You sound like you are checking out Amazon for a bumper order of white feathers.

I try to avoid Amazon if I can help it.

That doesn’t change the fact though that Europe is militarily unprepared for war with Russia. Its populations, ours included (in my opinion) are also not ready to join the armed forces let alone fight an attritional war with Russia.

If raising these very real problems makes me a “defeatist” so be it……I am pretty sure if Starmer wants the nation to rally to the colours to fight in Ukraine there will be many more people like me than you.

So what, in your opinion, should the main players (excluding Trump/US/Putin) do from here? You keep repeating the same points on this but refuse to offer anything constructive.

 

[Eeyore]

Ukraine war latest: Zelensky and EU in show of unity as Russia warns against European troops in Ukraine

"During all this period, and last week, you stayed with us," the Ukrainian president tells European leaders in Brussels.

www.bbc.co.uk

Aid workers say it's intended

 

[raymondo]

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Been reading about the sudden European effort to protect Ukraine, including the Sky Shield.

Better late than never but why has it taken so long and Trump to stir the shit to get us moving?

IMO our lack of foresight and cowardice allowed Putin to gain the confidence to cross into Ukraine for his full invasion.
NATO did nothing as his troops amassed on the border. Frankly, pathetic.

So why have we been sitting on our hands for three years?

Get a f***ing move on.

Three years?

Didn't Russia invade Ukraine in 2014?

 

[The Clamp]

Three years?

Didn't Russia invade Ukraine in 2014?

I was referring to the full scale invasion. But yes, you’re quite right.

 

[Whoislloydy]

Trump is revoking the legal status of 240,000 Ukrainians in America who fled at the start of the war and were taken in under the Biden administration

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerr...ainians-who-fled-war-with-russia-report-says/

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Trump is revoking the legal status of 240,000 Ukrainians in America who fled at the start of the war and were taken in under the Biden administration

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerr...ainians-who-fled-war-with-russia-report-says/

The will get stopped by the courts. He knows this but he likes acting like a ****.

 

[cjd]

I note he has suspended the 25% tariff on Mexican goods AGAIN for another month.

Is he just all mouth and trousers

 

[Birdie Boy]

I note he has suspended the 25% tariff on Mexican goods AGAIN for another month.

Is he just all mouth and trousers

Donald, where's your trousers!

 

[raymondo]

Tuesday...get sandwiches and a tin hat ready

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

I note he has suspended the 25% tariff on Mexican goods AGAIN for another month.

Is he just all mouth and trousers

it‘ll be the same with Canada. He’s just tying to scare everyone into submission and it’s just not happening.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Tuesday...get sandwiches and a tin hat ready

He’ll not pull the same stunt in Saudi as it would be infinitely rude to the host and he’s not in the safety of his own country. Hek’s just a coward.
i genuinely believe that Trump thought Zelensky would simply give in without a struggle. He’s not used to people taking him on.

 

[CHAPPERS]

Trump still thinks that tariffs are paid by the country who exports into the US. Somebody really needs to explain this to him at some point.

 

[raymondo]

He’ll not pull the same stunt in Saudi as it would be infinitely rude to the host and he’s not in the safety of his own country. Hek’s just a coward.
i genuinely believe that Trump thought Zelensky would simply give in without a struggle. He’s not used to people taking him on.

I'm not sure it'll be the top dogs in Saudi, only the US team (of idiot appeasers) that met with Russia are mentioned.

 

[Whoislloydy]

Trump still thinks that tariffs are paid by the country who exports into the US. Somebody really needs to explain this to him at some point.

He doesn't think that, he just says it for his loyal cronies.