[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[A1X]

 

[GoldstoneVintage]

He's always been a prick.

 

[Jim in the West]

We are SO lucky that Johnson is not still our PM. For many reasons, obviously - but if he were, we would be bowing down to Trump and chucking Ukraine under a bus.

 

[papachris]

On a more positive note. Today in Estonia is independence day. We went to the parade this morning. Here are a couple of photos of the British forces

 

[GoldstoneVintage]

I'm starting to come round to the idea that what we are dealing with is basically an even more greedy, narcissistic 'Trolly' Johnson, bouncing from one thing to another, on huge amounts of speed with a particularly vicious streak. He seems to have no capacity for concepts or detail, hence the weirdly meandering speeches and policies. He doesn't understand the differences between Gaza and Disneyland, he confuses Asylum seekers with Lunatic Asylums and his latest diatribes against Ukraine shows he has no understanding of any aspect of that situation either.

It's almost as if nobody can tell him that he isn't the most brilliant business/political/strategic mind on the planet and he is careering onwards like a some broken clockwork toy, lurching from one thing to another, whilst loads of people attempt to try and follow him.

Whenever I have come across this sort of weirdness in the past, the conspiracy has always been so complex, that it turned out to be cock up all along.

No less dangerous, but a little more logical

I think with Trump you have an unfortunate confluence of factors that have created his disgusting personality:

1) Born into immense wealth and privilege.
2) Average (at best) intelligence.
3) Arrogance off the scale bacause his wealth has protected him from his (many) failures.
4) Personality disorders - narcissism, psychopathy etc
5) A cruel, nasty and vindictive streak.

Supporting him is unforgivable.

 

[Eric the meek]

It may be that there's a way to go in this peace process.

 

[peterward]

It may be that there's a way to go in this peace process.

Flying to their new base in Russia?

 

[fly high]

It may be that there's a way to go in this peace process.

Looks like NATO based USAF are a bit off the new narrative. Two fingers to Trump?

 

[Eric the meek]

Flying to their new base in Russia?

I was reading it as more likely a Trump display of 'look what 'I've got' before the Russia talks begin.

But then, this is Trump we're talking about here. So who the f*** knows?

 

[raymondo]

It may be that there's a way to go in this peace process.

Interesting event - I wonder if the US needed to give permission for the B52 inclusion...or the locally based USAF just said "yeah, we're in!!".

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

He's always been a prick.

His mother is from the US so I can justifiably refer to him as a CSY*

Cock Sucking Yank

 

[beorhthelm]

Looks like NATO based USAF are a bit off the new narrative. Two fingers to Trump?

or the narrative of abandoning Nato, aligning with Russia, has been largely made up?

 

[Eric the meek]

I'm guessing that this is one of the B-52s (good band that) that landed at Fairford, Glos between Feb 9-13.

To recap, there were 3 B-52s, a U2 High altitude reconnaissance plane, 2 747s and a 767 with cargo and personnel.

That's quite a lot of kit if the rumours are true, and Trump is attending the May 9 Victory parade in Moscow.

(The last sentence is not a joke, but it is just a rumour).

 

[fly high]

That's quite a lot of kit if the rumours are true, and Trump is attending the May 9 Victory parade in Moscow.

(The last sentence is not a joke, but it is just a rumour).

If this happens it will signal to the world that free democracy is dead.

 

[Triggaaar]

We are SO lucky that Johnson is not still our PM. For many reasons, obviously - but if he were, we would be bowing down to Trump and chucking Ukraine under a bus.

But I expect there'd be a huge backlash if that were the case, and he'd be removed.

 

[Triggaaar]

If this happens it will signal to the world that free democracy is dead.

No, it will signal that democracy in the US is dead.

 

[Fungus]

His mother is from the US so I can justifiably refer to him as a CSY*

Cock Sucking Yank

Boris was born in the US, so he's a CSY regardless of his mother.

 

[Eric the meek]

If this happens it will signal to the world that free democracy is dead.

Possibly. But a lot of things can happen until we will know.

A possible scenario. If Russia plays ball, Trump will consider a visit. If Russia plays hardball, Trump does not visit, (or to be really clever, he agrees to visit, and then pulls out at the last minute).

All the above is guesswork. I may be hopelessly wrong.

But I said at the time of their arrival that I was troubled by the B-52s etc. Why are they here in Europe?
Why does Trump feel he needs to make such a statement of power?

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Possibly. But a lot of things can happen until we will know.

A possible scenario. If Russia plays ball, Trump will consider a visit. If Russia plays hardball, Trump does not visit, (or to be really clever, he agrees to visit, and then pulls out at the last minute).

All the above is guesswork. I may be hopelessly wrong.

But I said at the time of their arrival that I was troubled by the B-52s etc. Why are they here in Europe?
Why does Trump feel he needs to make such a statement of power?

If he goes perhaps they'll keep him.

 

[peterward]

Interesting X thread from Ben Tallis from Intl Politics & Security | Director, Democratic Strategy Initiative of Germany/EU

On what we need and can and should do re european military capability.