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Rugby is a sport for fat uncoordinated sport vegetables.

Is football easier or harder than Rugby?

  • Rugby is harder to play than football

    Votes: 47 61.0%
  • Rugby is easier to play than football

    Votes: 30 39.0%

  • Total voters
    77


Berty23

Well-known member
Jun 26, 2012
3,654
I am intrigued to know how using your feet to control a ball uses less skill and technique than using your hands. Genuinely interested.

It is not as simple as just hands vs feet. So much of rugby is technical skill such as body positioning and positional sense as well. A scrum in rugby league has no skill whereas in union it is all about technique. In rugby you can't pass forwards so to get forward you have to either kick it and give oppo the ball or run through a gap.

For years Wimbledon were in the top division playing compete hoofball. Defend deep and invite teams on then launch it 80 yards to fashenu and hope to pick up the pieces. You just can't do this in rugby. Territory and possession are king. In football you can not see the ball for ninety mins and defend the whole game but still win.

The skill of timing the pass in rugby is also key. You need to hold the ball long enough to draw the tackle and release it just as you get smashed. So bravery is also important.

Re hands vs feet.

Go and sprint flat out and try and pass a rugby ball 15 yards to your left and then right. If you are right handed a fast pass to the right is difficult. In football you get one footed players who never pass or shoot with the wrong foot. In rugby you don't have this option. You all need to be capable of passing both ways.

The feet vs hands argument is nonsense IMHO.
 




Berty23

Well-known member
Jun 26, 2012
3,654
In addition. Remember is football you have to get a relatively small ball past a defender. In rugby it is your whole body.
 


somerset

New member
Jul 14, 2003
6,600
Yatton, North Somerset
Somerset, you keep deluding yourself.
I am not sure I can counter such an incisive answer as that,... other than advise you change those blinkers of yours every now and again, they do wear out and may give you a dangerously wide view of the world that you wouldnt be used to.
 


W.C.

New member
Oct 31, 2011
4,927
In addition. Remember is football you have to get a relatively small ball past a defender. In rugby it is your whole body.

ludicrous! Precisely the kind of talk that I just won't deal with rugby types in debate

See ya!
 


Berty23

Well-known member
Jun 26, 2012
3,654
ludicrous! Precisely the kind of talk that I just won't deal with rugby types in debate

See ya!

Really? Why is it ludicrous. In football you have to get to the ball so you can move it a little bit and get past someone. In rugby to try and run around someone is incredibly hard.

I am not a rugby type. I have not played since my school days (I am 33). I love both sports but I can't accept the argument that there is more skill in football when Greece can win the euros and Bradford can beat three teams from the top tier.
 




W.C.

New member
Oct 31, 2011
4,927
Really? Why is it ludicrous. In football you have to get to the ball so you can move it a little bit and get past someone. In rugby to try and run around someone is incredibly hard.

my last comment on this

Ludicrous, again. Trying to run round someone!! Ooh!

Dribbling past people, ball at your feet, at speed, is for me, a skill that very few people can master.

bye
 


Berty23

Well-known member
Jun 26, 2012
3,654
Bye. You make a good point though because every great player has been able to dribble around people. Yes I remember Roy keane regularly doing this.

You are being far too simplistic in your argument.
 


piersa

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Apr 17, 2011
3,155
London
In addition. Remember is football you have to get a relatively small ball past a defender. In rugby it is your whole body.

Not sure what your point is on this one. As for the hads and feet argument, it's about proprioception and machanoreception.
 




piersa

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Apr 17, 2011
3,155
London
my last comment on this

Ludicrous, again. Trying to run round someone!! Ooh!

Dribbling past people, ball at your feet, at speed, is for me, a skill that very few people can master.

bye

You do not need to make it your last point. Don't be frustrated by the Rugby people who fail to understand the basic concept of skill.

You make valid points. I find people who try to make the Rugby argument are particularly defensive and "doth protest too much"
 


Berty23

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Jun 26, 2012
3,654
I am more of a football fan than rugby.

Is darts easy because that is hands? Snooker? Tennis?

I would argue federer is the greatest sportsman of all time. Maybe the only skilful thing he does is some keepy uppies

Come off it people.
 


piersa

Well-known member
Apr 17, 2011
3,155
London
I am more of a football fan than rugby.

Is darts easy because that is hands? Snooker? Tennis?

I would argue federer is the greatest sportsman of all time. Maybe the only skilful thing he does is some keepy uppies

Come off it people.

Blimey. Yes Darts, snooker and Tennis are a lot eaier to play with your hands than your feet. Sheeeeeeesh
 




withdeanwombat

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Feb 17, 2005
8,731
Somersetshire
Rugby was invented by some sap who couldn't cope with football.He picked up the ball and tried to run home to his mum.Talk about toys out of the pram ! Ever since it's been the fat,uncoordinated kids who cannot get in the football team who have been relegated to rugby,except now,like long term prisoners they resort to body building to show how fit and hard they are,and roll around in their musclebound way playing a second rate game with obscure rules reinforced by goofs of similar ilk who represent this mish mash of mud wrestling as a sport.
 


somerset

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Jul 14, 2003
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Yatton, North Somerset
Rugby was invented by some sap who couldn't cope with football.He picked up the ball and tried to run home to his mum.Talk about toys out of the pram ! Ever since it's been the fat,uncoordinated kids who cannot get in the football team who have been relegated to rugby,except now,like long term prisoners they resort to body building to show how fit and hard they are,and roll around in their musclebound way playing a second rate game with obscure rules reinforced by goofs of similar ilk who represent this mish mash of mud wrestling as a sport.
Now here is an fine example of ....... naaah, sorry, it a fine example of nothing actually.
 


Berty23

Well-known member
Jun 26, 2012
3,654
Rugby was invented by some sap who couldn't cope with football.He picked up the ball and tried to run home to his mum.Talk about toys out of the pram ! Ever since it's been the fat,uncoordinated kids who cannot get in the football team who have been relegated to rugby,except now,like long term prisoners they resort to body building to show how fit and hard they are,and roll around in their musclebound way playing a second rate game with obscure rules reinforced by goofs of similar ilk who represent this mish mash of mud wrestling as a sport.

And people say you can't discuss with rugby types.

I assume all sportsmen are just failed footballers?
 




piersa

Well-known member
Apr 17, 2011
3,155
London
Rugby was invented by some sap who couldn't cope with football.He picked up the ball and tried to run home to his mum.Talk about toys out of the pram ! Ever since it's been the fat,uncoordinated kids who cannot get in the football team who have been relegated to rugby,except now,like long term prisoners they resort to body building to show how fit and hard they are,and roll around in their musclebound way playing a second rate game with obscure rules reinforced by goofs of similar ilk who represent this mish mash of mud wrestling as a sport.

The first bit is entirely accurate.
 


goldstone

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Jul 5, 2003
7,179
Rugby was invented by some sap who couldn't cope with football.He picked up the ball and tried to run home to his mum.Talk about toys out of the pram ! Ever since it's been the fat,uncoordinated kids who cannot get in the football team who have been relegated to rugby,except now,like long term prisoners they resort to body building to show how fit and hard they are,and roll around in their musclebound way playing a second rate game with obscure rules reinforced by goofs of similar ilk who represent this mish mash of mud wrestling as a sport.

Wow! I was about to say that. Spot on!
 


Hamilton

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NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
12,953
Brighton
You only need about 8 people and 4 jumpers to play a semi-decent game of football. You need at least 14 people to play a semi decent game of rugby and you'd need to mark a very clear line at either end of the pitch and agree on a width (which is quite hard.) QED, it is easier to play football than rugby.

All the other arguments are meaningless - it's apples and pears.
 


midnight_rendezvous

Well-known member
Aug 10, 2012
3,743
The Black Country
Say what you want about rugby but at least the players seem to have an ounce of intelligence unlike football where everything happens at the end of the day...
 






piersa

Well-known member
Apr 17, 2011
3,155
London
Say what you want about rugby but at least the players seem to have an ounce of intelligence unlike football where everything happens at the end of the day...

In my experience most of the football happens during the match.
 


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