Rugby is a sport for fat uncoordinated sport vegetables.

[nwgull]

Sorry about the double negative. Take out a "not". Should have been "Personally i don't see the sort of claim that the average football player wouldn't last five minutes on a rugby pitch because the heavier fitter players would tear them to pieces as being something to be particularly proud of

Because being able to take the hits in a rugby match but get up off the floor and continue to run your arse off for 80 minutes shows a fair bit of physical and mental toughness.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Some interesting points but my word the rugby clan are a deluded bunch. It is laughable that you could claim that playing a ball with both your hands is harder than kicking a ball with one of your feet. There are more technical sports than football too.

I think that people just get too protective over their beloved egg. It is not a personal slight against rugby, it is just easier to play and it is generally played by people who are unable to play football and enjoy vomitting all over each other after matches. Good luck to you if that's what you enjoy.

Is this what it comes down to? You have to choose between rugby and football to watch/play/enjoy?

I wouldn't claim to be part of your 'rugby clan'. I've played both, and they are completely different, as I think we've established. The two codes of rugby are different enough, before you even consider a completely different sport.

If you want to make comparisons, I would wager that it requires as much skill, accuracy and ability to kick a penalty in rugby from the touchline in the wind and rain, as it is a 35-yard free kick in football. I would also imagine the ability to throw a 30 yard lofted pass over a line of backs from scrum half to winger/centre is similar to that of making a pinpoint pass through the opposition's defence for a forward to run on to.

Rugby players: Fat? Not any more. Uncoordinated? One look at some of the passes, kicks and scrummages at the highest level tell you otherwise. Sport vegetables? I don't even know what that means

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

The south is not a rugby area, so your perception is limited. Try looking in the South-West, Midlands or North-East where people are tougher, and the game is far more widespread. Your daughter plays, but you were never tough enough - says it all really.

That's a wild prejudgement. I started off in the 3rd 30 at school - I was big (i.e. fat) but quite fast. I played second row (I think they call it lock, now). I actually worked my way to getting up to the 1st 30 in a school (Worthing High School) where one year in my year all the Sussex Boys XV from whichever year we were in (under 15's I think) came from my school. I was quite good at Rugby, but just gave it up as soon as I could in favour of football.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Is using our hands easier? I'm sure there are more well rewarded and infamous foot specialists i.e. footballers than hand specialists i.e. pianists, rugby players, tennis players, thumb wrestlers

That would suggest that using ones feet is infinitely easier.



Kids pick the easy option. Why would one volunteer to have their body put through the mangle when they falsely believe that they are entitled to earn megabucks by kicking a ball about?

It's more attractive to play as you only need two of you. Hell, you can have a decent kickabout on your own.

Twas ever thus though. 45 years ago when I was playing football in Parks in Worthing, you never saw anyone with a rugby ball, and that was before people thought they could earn megabucks in the game.

And I don't think Rugby then probably was as physical then as it is now, so maybe it was not as much about putting yourself through the mill. Maybe that is contentious - I genuinely don't know.

 

[piersa]

Is this what it comes down to? You have to choose between rugby and football to watch/play/enjoy?

I wouldn't claim to be part of your 'rugby clan'. I've played both, and they are completely different, as I think we've established. The two codes of rugby are different enough, before you even consider a completely different sport.

If you want to make comparisons, I would wager that it requires as much skill, accuracy and ability to kick a penalty in rugby from the touchline in the wind and rain, as it is a 35-yard free kick in football. I would also imagine the ability to throw a 30 yard lofted pass over a line of backs from scrum half to winger/centre is similar to that of making a pinpoint pass through the opposition's defence for a forward to run on to.

Rugby players: Fat? Not any more. Uncoordinated? One look at some of the passes, kicks and scrummages at the highest level tell you otherwise. Sport vegetables? I don't even know what that means

It is a rare event that you watch a rugby game and can be agast at the skill level. Watching football it happens very regularly.

 

[piersa]

Is this what it comes down to? You have to choose between rugby and football to watch/play/enjoy?

I wouldn't claim to be part of your 'rugby clan'. I've played both, and they are completely different, as I think we've established. The two codes of rugby are different enough, before you even consider a completely different sport.

If you want to make comparisons, I would wager that it requires as much skill, accuracy and ability to kick a penalty in rugby from the touchline in the wind and rain, as it is a 35-yard free kick in football. I would also imagine the ability to throw a 30 yard lofted pass over a line of backs from scrum half to winger/centre is similar to that of making a pinpoint pass through the opposition's defence for a forward to run on to.

Rugby players: Fat? Not any more. Uncoordinated? One look at some of the passes, kicks and scrummages at the highest level tell you otherwise. Sport vegetables? I don't even know what that means

It is a rare event that you watch a rugby game and can be agast at the skill level. Watching football it happens very regularly.

 

[piersa]

Carlin Isles. Olympic Dream - YouTube

Just to prove that Rugby is easier than football. This guy started to play Rugby 12 weeks prior to this video. In this video he is wiping the floor with the top rugby 7s players.

 

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Carlin Isles. Olympic Dream - YouTube

Just to prove that Rugby is easier than football. This guy started to play Rugby 12 weeks prior to this video. In this video he is wiping the floor with the top rugby 7s players.

That doesn't prove that you don't need skill for rugby (and many, including the International Olympic Committee would argue that Sevens is a different sport to 15s rugby). All it really proves is that speed is essential in sevens - especially with all the extra space. Interestingly, the video doesn't show any input other than running with the ball. No tackling, no rucking. Just waiting for the ball to be thrown to him, and running.

 

[Simster]

I can't believe people are squabbling over what game is easier to play! It clearly entirely depends on the individual. You wouldn't expect a fat front rower to be able to play football any more than some of the incredibly thick soccerists would be capable of running a rugby game from fly half.

One thing is true. NZ always win at rugby in the same way as Germany/Italy and Brazil do in football. So whichever game you do play, there are certainly "better" ways of playing the games, because it's no fluke that the same nations are at the top end of their sport down the generations.

 

[piersa]

That doesn't prove that you don't need skill for rugby (and many, including the International Olympic Committee would argue that Sevens is a different sport to 15s rugby). All it really proves is that speed is essential in sevens - especially with all the extra space. Interestingly, the video doesn't show any input other than running with the ball. No tackling, no rucking. Just waiting for the ball to be thrown to him, and running.

Nobody said you do not need skill to play Rugby, his skill is pace and a bucket load of it. The point is he started playing 12 weeks prior to the video and is now a superstar. It would never happen in football.

 

[father_and_son]

I'm probably gonna get scolded for sweeping generalisations but 90% of Rugby players i've met, and I've met a lot, have been beligerant, self satisfied oafs.

Traditionally the saying went... "Rugby is a game played by oafs and watched by gentlemen, football is a game played by gentlemen and watched by oafs"

Rugby hasn't really changed all that much. Football seems stuck about half way these days.

 

[Glawstergull]

[QUOTE

I love football, I love Rugby a bit more. Other than the Albion, I'd watch any game of rugby over and above any other football game.[/QUOTE]

Yep Me too.

 

[somerset]

Traditionally the saying went... "Rugby is a game played by oafs and watched by gentlemen, football is a game played by gentlemen and watched by oafs"

Rugby hasn't really changed all that much. Football seems stuck about half way these days.

Get the quote right at least..... "Football is a gentleman's game played by hooligans, and rugby is a hooligans' game played by gentlemen"

 

[somerset]

[QUOTE

I love football, I love Rugby a bit more. Other than the Albion, I'd watch any game of rugby over and above any other football game.

Yep Me too.[/QUOTE]

Good lad..... I can't stand these limited sports fans..... Rugby is gods own game, but of course I don't restrict myself, I have St in the WSU now that I don't play rugby anymore.

 

[Titanic]

Traditionally the saying went... "Rugby is a game played by oafs and watched by gentlemen, football is a game played by gentlemen and watched by oafs"

Rugby hasn't really changed all that much. Football seems stuck about half way these days.

Football? Played by gentlemen??

 

[chucky1973]

rugby is played by gentlemen with respect, football is played by overpaid babies with little or know respect

 

[BrianSwan]

of course it is easier, when I was in school all the football team just walked onto the Rugby team at the ages of 15-16 after never really playing it before. They were fast and big so that was all that was really needed.

 

[wehatepalace]

of course it is easier, when I was in school all the football team just walked onto the Rugby team at the ages of 15-16 after never really playing it before. They were fast and big so that was all that was really needed.

That's funny because at my school, the rugby team won everything, county, regionals everything. The football team rarely even won a game. We played them one year as well, once at rugby, once at football and we won both of them too.

 

[somerset]

of course it is easier, when I was in school all the football team just walked onto the Rugby team at the ages of 15-16 after never really playing it before. They were fast and big so that was all that was really needed.

...and you actually believe that do you?.... incredible.

 

[Steviegeorge]

I think the main skill in playing and watching rugby is the ability to stay awake for 80 minutes