Rugby is a sport for fat uncoordinated sport vegetables.

[midnight_rendezvous]

Lawrence Dallaglio summed up the premier league quite nicely in a way. He called it the Andrex league: soft and expensive. Tbh they are two very different games but I don't think one is inherently easier than the other. Both are intricate and take a lot of skill to play well. If you think rugby is easy to play you are either shit at the game or deluded.

 

[Working class pride]

If you cant catch a rugby ball then you have to be a lemon and god knows what they would do if they fielded in the slips! You can have little or no coordination to play rugby league or that other minority sport of rugby union. Christ rugby union fans think fat blokes pushing someone over is skill, not exactly Pele or Messi are they. Footballers and cricketers are generally good at all sports, look at the Comptons or Bradman, or even at Brighton's level, Steve Gatting. But that is not why football is a truly world sport and rugby whether league or union are small sports with relatively small revenues. I think the reason why rugby has not really caught on is that you cant see the ball if you go to a game live. Ive had to go to both Rugby League and Union live and both are just dull live as you cant see the ball.

 

[somerset]

If you cant catch a rugby ball then you have to be a lemon and god knows what they would do if they fielded in the slips! You can have little or no coordination to play rugby league or that other minority sport of rugby union. Christ rugby union fans think fat blokes pushing someone over is skill, not exactly Pele or Messi are they. Footballers and cricketers are generally good at all sports, look at the Comptons or Bradman, or even at Brighton's level, Steve Gatting. But that is not why football is a truly world sport and rugby whether league or union are small sports with relatively small revenues. I think the reason why rugby has not really caught on is that you cant see the ball if you go to a game live. Ive had to go to both Rugby League and Union live and both are just dull live as you cant see the ball.

Working class ignorance

 

[Baron Pepperpot]

I did see this thread, and initially thought... I won't even bother. I must say the fact that folk don't understand the intelligence involved in rugby and see it as pure brawn was enough. Rugby is a far superior sport. I'm an Albion fan and a season ticket holder at Harlequins.

 

[8ace]

Rugby is f***ing toliet.

 

[somerset]

Rugby is f***ing toliet.

This comment says all I need to know about you...... Ignorant and illiterate

 

[8ace]

This comment says all I need to know about you...... Ignorant and illiterate

 

[mccraque]

I've played both - and wax and waned over my playing days as to which I preferred, but think I fall on the side of rugby.

I found that there is crossover. I played fullback in rugby and having decent feet was a useful attribute. And the rugby side helped me dish out some reducers in the Sussex Sunday league at Waterhall!

I wouldn't expect egg chasing to appeal to a lot of the knuckle draggers you see at football though. Especially the munt that sits behind me in East stand upper each week.

I can also say that a day at a Twickenham autumn international is at least 10x better than watching the English football team.

 

[Deleted member 18477]

The south is not a rugby area, so your perception is limited. Try looking in the South-West, Midlands or North-East where people are tougher, and the game is far more widespread. Your daughter plays, but you were never tough enough - says it all really.

where people are tougher? what the hell are you on about!

whatever people say... clearly not that many people give a shit about rugby. the TV deals and footballers wages coompared to rugbys prove that.

 

[piersa]

...and you actually believe that do you?.... incredible.

Somerset, you keep deluding yourself.

 

[piersa]

I've played both - and wax and waned over my playing days as to which I preferred, but think I fall on the side of rugby.

I found that there is crossover. I played fullback in rugby and having decent feet was a useful attribute. And the rugby side helped me dish out some reducers in the Sussex Sunday league at Waterhall!

I wouldn't expect egg chasing to appeal to a lot of the knuckle draggers you see at football though. Especially the munt that sits behind me in East stand upper each week.

I can also say that a day at a Twickenham autumn international is at least 10x better than watching the English football team.

I'm really struggling to argue with the English football team part. You are right on that. However, Rugby still requires far less technique than football. That fact that you use hands instead of feet to control the ball says it all. Proprioception and mechanoreception dictate.

 

[strings]

I'm really struggling to argue with the English football team part. You are right on that. However, Rugby still requires far less technique than football. That fact that you use hands instead of feet to control the ball says it all. Proprioception and mechanoreception dictate.

Actually I think he is right. Twickenham has atmosphere, Wembley doesn't. Nothing to do with technique, [MENTION=13296]mccraque[/MENTION] is spot on. A day at a Twickenham autumn international is at least 10x better that watching the English football team.

Although not for you, because you don't like Rugby. Fair enough.

 

[Nibble]

I've never met a Rugby player I liked. Not saying that to be antagonistic, I am thinking hard and I can't think ofoneand I went to boarding school where it was the principal sport.

 

[mccraque]

I'm really struggling to argue with the English football team part. You are right on that. However, Rugby still requires far less technique than football. That fact that you use hands instead of feet to control the ball says it all. Proprioception and mechanoreception dictate.

Fail to see how using your hands is not a skill. Technique isn't limited to footwork. I would say there's probably more technique in rugby - tackling, offloading etc in open play....and then there is the scrum. Granted it may not look that way to the untrained eye...but if you're there, you will know.

Don't get me wrong....I like football. And appreciate that people on a football chat forum may not like rugby. Regardless of that there is a hell of a lot of skill involved. Unless you're playing for Scotland.

 

[W.C.]

so many things to say myself on this subject but just can't be arsed to get into it. Most rugger buggers I know though are just so dismissive of the 'beautiful game' that I gave up completely being open minded about egg chasing. Completely different sports but whilst I can see the physical side of rugby, the rugby fans I know are just blind to the skills of football and go on and on about how 'soft' it is.

I couldn't give a shit. I'd much rather ping a perfect pass with the outside of my boot than be built like a brick shit house and carry a ball.

 

[Berty23]

In rugby a team from the third tier would have absolutely no chance vs top tier side. To me this suggests there is some skill.

In rugby World Cup you get complete mismatches between teams which suggests a degree of skill.

Greece were the rank outsiders in euros and won. This would never ever happen in rugby.

The technical skills needed are incredible.

 

[piersa]

Actually I think he is right. Twickenham has atmosphere, Wembley doesn't. Nothing to do with technique, [MENTION=13296]mccraque[/MENTION] is spot on. A day at a Twickenham autumn international is at least 10x better that watching the English football team.

Although not for you, because you don't like Rugby. Fair enough.

The atmosphere is better at Twickenham but I will never go back because nothing they did made me look in amazement. Some of them ran quickly, that was about it. I could have done the rest myself. I played Rugby at school, it was ludicrously simple.

 

[piersa]

In rugby a team from the third tier would have absolutely no chance vs top tier side. To me this suggests there is some skill.

In rugby World Cup you get complete mismatches between teams which suggests a degree of skill.

Greece were the rank outsiders in euros and won. This would never ever happen in rugby.

The technical skills needed are incredible.

Nobody is saying there is no skill, just less.

 

[Berty23]

I am saying there is more which is why the difference between the best and everyone else is so marked.

 

[piersa]

I am saying there is more which is why the difference between the best and everyone else is so marked.

I am intrigued to know how using your feet to control a ball uses less skill and technique than using your hands. Genuinely interested.