Roy Chubby Brown cancelled

[BadFish]

What is missing from this discussion is the facts about what actually happened between RCB being booked and his booking being cancelled. Without this knowledge, it is really not possible to decern the motives of those making the decision.

It is obvious from the replies that those who believe this is part of the modern-day epidemic of 'cancel culture' have not been swayed by the counterarguments offered. Just as those who suggest that this is actually part of a time-honoured tradition of towns banning stuff that they think will reflect badly on them also seem unmoved in their opinion.

My understanding of cancel culture is that it involves a more concerted effort to ruin the careers of speakers and performers, usually on social media. from what I can see this looks like a hiccup in RCB's career. A hiccup that he has seemingly experienced many times before. One could say that it comes with the territory for a comedian of his ilk, even it can be said that this stuff enhances his reputation and raises his profile.

Hopefully, he can find another venue for his act and the people of Sheffield can get their Chubby fix.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Fair enough, bit of a faux pas to book him and later cancel him though.
He's in his 70's now and has been doing his thing since the 60's.
It does make me wonder why book him in the first place?

I'd be guessing here, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if the booking was made by someone who hadn't heard of him.
He is only well known to a certain generation and hasn't been relevant, for decades.

 

[Chicken Run]

What you have done is pick up a relatively routine event (a venue deciding not to book him, it's been going on for years) and twist it into an "anti-woke" rant and a "sign of the times".


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But they did book him though, then decided to cancel [emoji106]


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[Chicken Run]

Most the people signing the petition will have never have seen him live and will never buy a ticket to do so. He often struggles to sell out venues as his live act is very niche.

Where he has made his money ( a comfortable few million ) is from DVD sales invariably bought as Christmas presents. The vast majority who have never seen him live either.

What you have done is pick up a relatively routine event (a venue deciding not to book him, it's been going on for years) and twist it into an "anti-woke" rant and a "sign of the times".

That in itself is nothing new. It's exactly the same strategy the tabloids took into the 1980s, making up stories about looney left councils to sell papers.

The difference (I think) is the tabloids didn't believe a word they wrote. In your defence, I think you do.

If you fancy a return to the media world and want to create debate around "political correctness/woke" I'd try and separate your personal beliefs from the subject of debate.
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[Garage_Doors]

It's not really surprising that RCB has been cancelled. What IS surprising is that he had a career in comedy at all.

Its only been 50 years.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I am defending the right of people who want to be entertained by an entertainer in a venue. If no laws are broken then all is good yeah?
I don't know whether to be touched or creeped out by your concern for me!

There are laws on hate speech. If he used similar language in a workplace to a colleague, he would be sacked. Words like N**** and P**** are deigned to be hate speech by law. He only gets away with it, because his audience are willing participants of his ‘style’.

 

[BadFish]

]I am defending the right of people who want to be entertained by an entertainer in a venue. If no laws are broken then all is good yeah?[/B]
I don't know whether to be touched or creeped out by your concern for me!

For this to happen you need three things

1. the entertainer.
2. the venue to put them on.
3. the audience.

Without any one of these three things, the show is not going ahead.

What they need is another venue.

The faux outrage and controversy does no harm to ticket sales though.

Win win.

 

[CheeseRolls]

I like that. A clever twist and I now RCB has the timing and presence to deliver it. His choice that he wastes his talent on spewing bile.

 

[Bakero]

Wasn't he in the 2001 boxing day special and the "Apocalypse" special when Royston Vasey (the town) was destructing because the writers were on strike .....?

funny to have the town at the centre of your comedy series named after a comedian who had no input whatsoever wouldn't you say....then again after his comment about the Bradford FC fire i'm surprised he hasn't been done.

i know what his real name is cheers , i'll check some of my box sets and see if he's credited with contributing.....

I assumed they named the town after him to take the piss as he's a small-minded bigot who's stuck in the past. Also, it just works as the name as a little village, doesn't it?

Other than his appearance as the mayor, I don't think he had any further involvement.

 

[Brian Fantana]

Its only been 50 years.

I think that's a really sad reflection on what people have found funny then during the past 50 years.

 

[sydney]

I assumed they named the town after him to take the piss as he's a small-minded bigot who's stuck in the past. Also, it just works as the name as a little village, doesn't it?

Other than his appearance as the mayor, I don't think he had any further involvement.

apart from having the village where the sitcom was based named after him , obviously not .....dont get me wrong mate , things have moved on but we need to have a grip on what we were and what we are now ......dont get me wrong again , 30 yers is a long time in comedy..!!

 

[Bakero]

apart from having the village where the sitcom was based named after him , obviously not .....dont get me wrong mate , things have moved on but we need to have a grip on what we were and what we are now ......dont get me wrong again , 30 yers is a long time in comedy..!!

Of course. If they were to make League of Gents today, I'm sure they wouldn't have Papa Laz in blackface.

Still, naming the village Royston Vasey was a joke not a tribute imo

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

There are laws on hate speech. If he used similar language in a workplace to a colleague, he would be sacked. Words like N**** and P**** are deigned to be hate speech by law. He only gets away with it, because his audience are willing participants of his ‘style’.

What's wrong with that then no one's being offended ?
Regards
DF

 

[Razzoo]

What's wrong with that then no one's being offended ?
Regards
DF

There is an endless queue of people who are committed to being offended by proxy.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

There is an endless queue of people who are committed to being offended by proxy.

They can do one then , I don't need telling what I can and can't do that isn't breaking the law ****ing jokers the lot of them!
Regards
DF

 

[A1X]

What's wrong with that then no one's being offended ?
Regards
DF

There is an endless queue of people who are committed to being offended by proxy.

Wait, so do we have to be directly impacted now to find something offensive? I'm not Jewish, does this mean I can't find anti-semitism offensive?

 

[Razzoo]

Wait, so do we have to be directly impacted now to find something offensive? I'm not Jewish, does this mean I can't find anti-semitism offensive?

No. You are free to be offended by whatsoever you choose. I am just surprised that some people seem to be on a mission to actively seek reasons to be offended. There is a fine line between freedom of expression and causing offence. That is why we have laws in place, inciting hatred,
Inciting violence etc.

 

[The Clamp]

No. You are free to be offended by whatsoever you choose. I am just surprised that some people seem to be on a mission to actively seek reasons to be offended. There is a fine line between freedom of expression and causing offence. That is why we have laws in place, inciting hatred,
Inciting violence etc.

Those aren’t the only two criteria for not allowing something. Sometime people just don’t want to be associated with bigoted bullshit.

 

[Razzoo]

Those aren’t the only two criteria for not allowing something. Sometime people just don’t want to be associated with bigoted bullshit.

I dont endorse or support "bigoted bullshit" by any means but I am keen on freedom of expression and speech and the right to take the piss and offend IF it is within the law.
What do you think they of Jerry Sadowitz, Ricky Gervais, Frankie Boyle, Lennny Bruce?
The best comedians are edgy, thought provoking and occasionally cause offence.
Safe inoffensive comedy does exist but it can be a little bit bland, the likes of Michael MacIntyre spring to mind.
Finally comedy is subjective. Not all people are going to lap up Stewart Lee. It is arrogant and a bit patronising to dictate to people what and who they are allowed to find funny.

 

[rogersix]

No. You are free to be offended by whatsoever you choose. I am just surprised that some people seem to be on a mission to actively seek reasons to be offended. There is a fine line between freedom of expression and causing offence. That is why we have laws in place, inciting hatred,
Inciting violence etc.

what do you make of all the sad sacks taking offence at a low quality comic having one venue cancel on him, again?

it's like they do it on purpose, wasting their lives, trawling the internet for a nugget, and then the glory of posting; actually, it's really sad