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Ross McCormack 10 million move to Fulham









sparkie

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Jul 17, 2003
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Hove
That is very debatable - apparently over 28 years only 23% of teams bounce back straight away and the percentage goes down after that.

Yes, although parachute payments have traditionally been significantly smaller if you go back into history.
 


Ecosse Exile

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May 20, 2009
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Talking to a Liverpool fan about this transfer last week and even he thought the parachute payments were ridiculous, his idea was that all the money should go in a pot, if these clubs are n genuine need of help AFTER doing all they can to help themselves I.e. writing wage decreases into contracts and selling their top earners, who after all couldnt keep them in the prem in the first place, then and only then should this money be available to stop them from going bust.

I tend to agree but sadly, I don't think it will ever happen. Premier league 2 is already here, clubs like ours are just crashing the party.
 


nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
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Manchester
That is very debatable - apparently over 28 years only 23% of teams bounce back straight away and the percentage goes down after that.

An excellent point. QPR were the first team to bounce back since West Ham in 11/12, and both of them only did so by the play offs and spending way in excess of the parachute money. Better examples of how parachute money doesn't guarantee success are Bolton or Blackpool.

McCormack is quality at this level, but 11m makes Fulham look like mugs. Leeds fans should be laughing at the quality that they can replace him with for that price.
 




sparkie

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Jul 17, 2003
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Hove
An excellent point. QPR were the first team to bounce back since West Ham in 11/12, and both of them only did so by the play offs and spending way in excess of the parachute money. Better examples of how parachute money doesn't guarantee success are Bolton or Blackpool.

McCormack is quality at this level, but 11m makes Fulham look like mugs. Leeds fans should be laughing at the quality that they can replace him with for that price.

Parachute payments were massive last year compared to previous years, and have gone up again since.

Looking at history, with relatively low payments, does no favours when assessing the present or future.
 


El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
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Jul 5, 2003
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Pattknull med Haksprut
Indeed. Parachute payments really have to be overhauled or we will never get a fair competition in this league.

Eh? We've NEVER had fair competition in this league, or any other, from what I can recall.

Burnley, Hull, and as much as we hate to admit it, Palace, have all been promoted in the last two seasons without spending ridiculous sums of money. Wolves were relegated to L1 despite parachute payments, and the likes of Blackburn, Reading, Blackpool and Bolton haven't set the league alight with them either.
 


El Presidente

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Jul 5, 2003
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Parachute payments were massive last year compared to previous years, and have gone up again since.

Looking at history, with relatively low payments, does no favours when assessing the present or future.

Relatively low? They were £18m last season.
 




sparkie

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Jul 17, 2003
13,277
Hove
Relatively low? They were £18m last season.

I specifically excluded last season, and was talking about payments further back than that.

If anyone wants to look at history, you can really only go back a year or 2, because before that the parachutes are significantly smaller.

Also, there was never the imperfect storm of the combination of FFP and Parachute Payments if you look back more than a couple of years.
 








Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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I am sure i know the answer of this question by most, but would it be a bad thing if the Premier League to control of the football league?
 




Ecosse Exile

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I am sure i know the answer of this question by most, but would it be a bad thing if the Premier League to control of the football league?

It could be a very good thing in terms of making the gap between each division smaller, but many think it, along with sky, has ruined the top end of the game, would it be a more even playing field? Or would they just keep on looking after the cream at the top?
 






El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
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Jul 5, 2003
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I specifically excluded last season, and was talking about payments further back than that.

If anyone wants to look at history, you can really only go back a year or 2, because before that the parachutes are significantly smaller.

Also, there was never the imperfect storm of the combination of FFP and Parachute Payments if you look back more than a couple of years.

QPR lost £60 million last year despite parachute payments, Bolton £50 million, Wolves £30 million etc. These losses would be far worse had it not been for parachute payments.
 












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