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[Albion] Roberto De Zerbi - JOINS AS NEW HEAD COACH (4 year contract)
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Kosh
'The' Yaztromo
I don’t, but it’s been suggested elsewhere that his agent is very pushy and well connected to the Twitter ‘in the know’ Illuminati.
Like I say, I don’t know ... but as Han Solo would say - I’ve got a bad feeling about this.
Mr Bridger
Sound of the suburbs
Will fit right in with some of the posters on this forum.
The Wizard
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- Jul 2, 2009
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Looks quite similar to Potter by that video, perhaps that’s what Bloom is doing, trying to create a bit of continuity tactics wise which will help the transition, despite De Zerbi being a very different person to Potter clearly.
- Nov 11, 2009
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Conte will bin off Spurs and go back if Allegri is canned.
I think the De Zerbi to Juve stuff is more likely his agent trying to push to close the deal to us.
- Jun 27, 2012
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What’s Romano really said about this deal that’s any different to what Brian Owen, Sky or other outlets have reported . He’s on our shortlist, talks of some nature have started and it’s not done yet. The reporting is pretty consistent everywhere … hence the betting. And club haven’t denied it. But yes - agreed it’s early days.
- Nov 11, 2009
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Top knowledge.
People often forget too that Shakthar haven't played in Donetsk since 2014. They're footballing gypsies like Brighton were at Gillingham cut off from home city and local fan base.
The Ukrainian league is also pretty poor.
Shakthar are similar in many ways to Celtic, one of the 2 big clubs in a mediocre league. They pay ok (as owned by Ukraines richest man, Oligarch Rinat Ahkmetov) and can attract decent prospects and managers as they pay pretty well, will nearly always finish top 2 in domestic league, but not fair that great in Europe against clubs from more elite leagues.
Johnny RoastBeef
These aren't the players you're looking for.
- Jan 11, 2016
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His teams really don't seem to like to play long passes, but our recent upturn in results has coincided with our increased acceptance to go long.
I fear the high intense press which is used across the premier league might nullify this guy's preferred style.
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- Jun 27, 2012
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He’s well know as a coach who knows how to beat the press
https://theathletic.com/1927757/202...to-beat-the-press/?source=user_shared_article
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Johnny RoastBeef
These aren't the players you're looking for.
- Jan 11, 2016
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His goal against numbers suggest he is not that great at beating it, and I wouldnt fancy our current defence playing his way.
I wouldn’t fancy him at all if he is not able to adapt his style to what’s been drummed into our players for the last 3 years. I don’t think Tony will give him the job if he does not believe he’ll maintain our defensive integrity but it’s a concern as you say.
GloryDays
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Our defence won't be able to play this way bc of how strong the PL is. Nowhere near this long on the ball. Some of those defenders could have a cigarette and coffee between passes. So DZ will have to adapt anyway. We were very good at moving the ball quickly out from the back at the end of the Potter era. Even sometimes playing long. DZ might be thankful that Liverpool is his first game. Getting absolutely mauled on day one will serve a valuable lesson to the pace of the league.
If he gets appointed.
Thumbs up from me.
- Jun 27, 2012
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When was the last time we were “mauled” playing Liverpool ?
Wouldn't look too much at those defensive numbers. Yes he has an attacking style and says he doesn't like to sit and control the game when 1-0 up, but that Sassuolo defense... last season, when they had no De Zerbi, it was even worse. Mapei spends a lot of money on this club, but they don't like spending money on defenders.
To illustrate the contrast:
Sassuolo: Well done Roberto, well done... what do you want for next season?
De Zerbi: Keeping Berardi would be nice...
Sassuolo: No problemo, we'll give him a contract that makes him never want to leave:
De Zerbi: Good good.. maybe another attacking player or two?
Sassuolo: Oh yes. Caputo? Scored 16 goals in Serie A last season. Want him? He is in the hallway. Maybe Defrel as well, 11 goals in Serie last season? Scored a dozen for us last time. Is good? You want more? You can have more, you know.
De Zerbi: Nice, a couple of 10+ Serie A goal scorers along with the ones we already have. I'll take it. It would also be nice to have a defender or two who aren't Juventus youth rejects, youknow...
Sassuolo: Oh... how about Magnani?
De Zerbi: But he's a Juventus youth reject.
Sassuolo: He's not that young... but okay Roberto, you are tough negotiator: we will bring you one loan player from bottom club in Greece, sign one 28 year old nobody who played 16 games in four years for Dortmund and Napolis 7th choice centre back.
De Zerbi: But...
Sassuolo: And you always have Peluso.
De Zerbi: He's 38 now and..
Sassuolo: Peluso. Okey, good luck Roberto.
Again, I think it gets pretty complicated to look at these numbers given the context. Its a team that just doesn't like to spend money on defenders and the two or three times they did, they're not very good at it. As De Zerbi described them at some point, they're a "front wheel" club. Brighton is a lot more well-balanced.
Obviously it might take some time for De Zerbi to adapt and understand the differences between Serie A and Premier League. Luckily the club has a decent advantage and most likely - though GP had a thing for beating the biggies it is not what could be expected each year - some of the games in October are of the "throw-away" kind that normally shouldn't be generating many points either. Pressure is off and that might be helpful.
Overall, De Zerbi is not necessarily my favorite candidate but some of the concerns are unwarranted IMO. Yes he switched clubs often as a player, that is what happens when you are a good second/third division player who is not quite good enough for the first division. As a manager - sure, he didn't get along with the Foggia owners who got fined for money laundering and then steered the club to bankruptcy, and he got sacked by Zamparini like everyone else, and he failed (shame on him) to stop the war in Ukraine so he had to pack his bags there as well. Three years (converted from Serie A years to Premier League years, thats like 15 years) in Sassuolo is not too shabby though and about twice as long as the average tenure of a PL manager.
Kalimantan Gull
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He's clearly desperate for the job. Doesn't mean he'd be bad, but it doesn't feel like our style. If he was first choice we'd have appointed him by now. If he gets it is probably because we can't get our preferred choice (s)
Nice jacket. Could be our man.
um bongo molongo
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It’s interesting there’s noise about him and nothing about the others. He needs a job and the others are in one. As others have said, those two things are likely closely linked with an agent behind it, and there may be value betting on one of the others. I’d still like Haise, and hope we aren’t ‘too nice’ to shaft Lens the way Chelsea shafted us.
Whitechapel
Famous Last Words
I think the fact he didn’t leave Ukraine until all his players and coaching staff were safe is probably a better way to judge his character than some lazy stereotype.