Robert Enke Dead

[Uncle Spielberg]

Point of order BOF was DISAGREEING with the post of NHM .

 

[Barrel of Fun]

This shows my point to a tee.

You've obviously never experienced it, which is great, and the only way for you understand it, is to.

It's an ever decreasing circle.

I'm actually glad that you think a suicide is a rational decision, because it means you have never suffered from depression.

I was being sarcastic and you are wrong on your suppositions, but I am not willing to embelish. Don't feel bad (if you do).

 

[The Peanut Roaster]

I was being sarcastic and you are wrong on your suppositions, but I am not willing to embelish. Don't feel bad (if you do).

I was going to suggest you change your name

 

[The Peanut Roaster]

Point of order BOF was DISAGREEING with the post of NHM .

Accepted.

Pretty emotive.

Apologies to bof.

 

[Al Bion]

Very sad news, RIP

 

[Safeway]

The drugs they use (in my opinion) sort of put you on 'automatic pilot', trying to balance out the highs and lows to a mean.


The trouble with depression is that anyone that hasn't suffred it doesn't understand it at all (i.e pull yourself together/ you'll get over it/ be strong etc), but the only way to actually understand it is to experience it.

And I truly wouldn't want my worst enemy to experience it.

May the chap RIP.

Amen to that.

BoF, why don't you edit your post from :thud: to : wozza :, thus making your point clear.

 

[Helen Chamberlains Quim]

Accident? I hope it was, because putting other people's lives at risk by putting a vehicle in front of a train is stupid and selfish.

I'm sure his surviving relatives feel the same way.

Accident? I hope it was, because putting other people's lives at risk by putting a vehicle in front of a train is stupid and selfish.

I assume you have no children because if you did you would surely know the love for them is without compromise. Something like his story would probably do for most genuine loving parents.

Why is it so impossible for people to just read, digest and understand the tragedy of being human without a load of righteous crap?

Even if he was a Kraut.

HCQ

 

[brightonlass2009]

Very tragic, poor soul. R.I.P.

 

[Lush]

Puts that stupid Bill Shankly quote into context, doesn't it?

Very sad.

 

[brightonlass2009]

Accident? I hope it was, because putting other people's lives at risk by putting a vehicle in front of a train is stupid and selfish.

If you're depressed you're generally not in a rational state of mind to decide whether it's stupid or selfish.
To him that was probably the only option in his mind to end the pain and suffering that he was obvious trying to deal with.
In my mind, he isn't stupid or selfish. He was just evidently a very tortured soul who needed help, which was probably not given to him in an effective manner.

 

[Twinkle Toes]

Puts that stupid Bill Shankly quote into context, doesn't it?

It certainly does hon. I hope the guy is finally at peace btw. Very sad stuff.

 

[Spanish Seagulls]

Rest In Peace with your child.

 

[Insel affe]

RIP

 

[brakespear]

I have in the past mentioned how I have thought people throwing/parking themselves in front of trains is more than a little selfish.....however, looking through the details on this I can quite understand why he did what he did.

So I guess life is again less black and white than I thought it (and I was pretty much mostly in the smeary grey anyway) and I would like to retract what I have said before....RIP

 

[The Peanut Roaster]

I've been thinking about this since my last post (carefully), and I would suggest that depression could be thought of as a cancer of the mind.

 

[NMH]

If you're depressed you're generally not in a rational state of mind to decide whether it's stupid or selfish.
To him that was probably the only option in his mind to end the pain and suffering that he was obvious trying to deal with.
In my mind, he isn't stupid or selfish. He was just evidently a very tortured soul who needed help, which was probably not given to him in an effective manner.

I bet you'd feel the same for that poor guy if you were the mother or wife of someone who died on a wrecked train rthrough his pained irrational soul.

It's been said before about 'jumpers' that they don't stop to consider the train driver's trauma - imagine a mother's trauma mourning the death of their child from such an act? Tortured souls abounding, let's feel sorry for the guy who puts his car in front of a train eh?

 

[Barrel of Fun]

FFS this isn't some suicide bomber who intended to take as many lives with him as possible. This was a man in his early thirties, a succesful man with plenty to look forward to, but his mental state made him put his car in front of a train.

Unless you have ever suffered from suicidal thoughts or have suffered from depression, then you are not in a position to jduge someone. It is an illness and rationality is the last thing that someone contemplates when they decide to take their own life.

Blimey. Chastise him all you want if it makes you feel superior. Have a biscuit, cretin.

 

[Scampi]

I bet you'd feel the same for that poor guy if you were the mother or wife of someone who died on a wrecked train rthrough his pained irrational soul.

It's been said before about 'jumpers' that they don't stop to consider the train driver's trauma - imagine a mother's trauma mourning the death of their child from such an act? Tortured souls abounding, let's feel sorry for the guy who puts his car in front of a train eh?

This is the post of a nasty, small minded sanctimonoius shit.

 

[The Wizard]

I bet you'd feel the same for that poor guy if you were the mother or wife of someone who died on a wrecked train rthrough his pained irrational soul.

It's been said before about 'jumpers' that they don't stop to consider the train driver's trauma - imagine a mother's trauma mourning the death of their child from such an act? Tortured souls abounding, let's feel sorry for the guy who puts his car in front of a train eh?

Please, PLEASE f*** OFF.

 

[turnstiler]

It's been said before about 'jumpers' that they don't stop to consider the train driver's trauma - imagine a mother's trauma mourning the death of their child from such an act? Tortured souls abounding, let's feel sorry for the guy who puts his car in front of a train eh?

Actually, according to German TV his car was found nearby, also in the vicinity of where his daughter is buried. He just waited on the pitch-black tracks.

I personally feel sorry for him, his wife, his newly-adopted child, the train driver, the fans... there is NO winner in such a tragic event.

And as for the depression question, I don't wish it on anyone. Because regardless of how much support and loving there is around you, it's just hard to feel...anything. I'm personally an 'avoid the pills, go seek professional help' type of person. But it all plays a part to some extent, and there's not one simple cure, perhaps 'cause it always lingers in the back of the mind regardless of how much you 'get over it'.

Anyway, reasons for his suicide are mere speculation. It's just terribly shocking and sad.