[News] RIP Archie Battersbee
- Thread starter Lenny Rider
- Start date
Got something to say or just want fewer pesky ads? Join us... 😊
Fair enough…and good that you’re still here and able to have this discussion!
Lenny Rider
Well-known member
- Sep 15, 2010
- 6,019
- Thread starter
- #43
Good point, somehow I doubt it, having been in ICU and seen the set up.
Yes I get that - but in terms of care they were just about to switch off his life support system resulting in his death. None of us have died so we don't know what it's like, but he's been uncoonscious since April - was his death actually a better experience in his hospital bed? - would it have been any worse in the ambulance, on the trolley going to the ambulance, or even for a few minutes in the hospice if he got there?
OK, yes, I get the duty of care thing, but this somehow seems closer to the letter of the law than the spirit of it. Layman's view, I know.
AstroSloth
Well-known member
- Dec 29, 2020
- 1,380
Because hospices are for people who are approaching the end of their life, not corpses that are being kept warm.
AstroSloth
Well-known member
- Dec 29, 2020
- 1,380
There was no viral challenge for a start. Second people taking part in challenges tend to record themselves doing the challenge, he didn't.
He was also depressed and had practiced tying the ligature round his neck and attaching it to his sisters door the night before. He committed suicide.
Unnecessary. 'Corpses that are being kept warm' - show a little respect, eh?
I’m not sure what to make of this. One thing I can say is that not only is this a very sorry tale….the more I read about it the weirder it gets.
AstroSloth
Well-known member
- Dec 29, 2020
- 1,380
Archie and his family weren't Christian. The organisation offered financial help because they had an agenda they wanted to push. They wanted to try and get the legal definition of alive changed to someone with a heartbeat so they can claim fetuses are alive and attempt to get abortions banned.
This is also why they went with the internet challenge story as if they told the truth that Archie had committed suicide then he would be a sinner.
AstroSloth
Well-known member
- Dec 29, 2020
- 1,380
He didn't die after the judgement. He died months ago.
His body was being kept warm whilst it decomposed in the hospital room. His organs were suffering necrosis and his brain stem was completely gone.
AstroSloth
Well-known member
- Dec 29, 2020
- 1,380
But when he's suffered brain death, his brain stem rotted away and his organs suffering necrosis, you should probably trust the doctors when they say he's gone
- Oct 17, 2008
- 14,563
Yes, this is what is widely known online. Very sad all round.
I think everyone should read this as a matter of importance if they are to share opinions on this sad event.
AstroSloth
Well-known member
- Dec 29, 2020
- 1,380
Well that's what was happening. He'd died long ago and any semblance of a dignified death was taken from him.
His mother was selling t-shirts with his face on for £15 a pop at the vigil last night instead of staying by his bed.
I don't if its pertinent to this case but 'coning' is when swelling in the skull forces the brain down through where the spinal chord is.
spongy
Well-known member
Exactly this.
It's a horrible thing to must have to go through, as a father of 2 young girls it'd be my worst nightmare but I hope as an intelligent person I'd take the advice of professionals who know what they're doing regards this situation and do the right thing.
Ive now read that some Christian fund has got involved.
IMO science and religion should not be involved together.
When it comes to faith it's one or the other, and a courtroom is not the place for it to be decided
- Jan 3, 2012
- 17,357
My daughter, who is a doctor, said the trauma of actually moving him could well have killed him before getting to the hospice.
And as for the “Christian” group who were supporting the parents, I don’t understand on what basis they might have been doing it. #givingchristiansabadname
- Jan 3, 2012
- 17,357
Firstly, I seriously disagree with the persecuted Christians in this country thing.
But secondly, and more importantly, I fail to see any Christian aspect on which to “fight” this. It is not euthanasia, which I could understand but not necessarily agree with. It is about the artificial prolonging of someone’s life and, if anything, going against God’s will.
This is a genuine question. On what basis were they doing it?
Last edited:
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
A smiling mother and a Tory MP photo opp. This was sick (and I don't mean that in the slang context)
[tweet]1555677002392342530[/tweet]
I know what it's like to have a relative where the life support was turned off. My half brother died aged 21 from encephalitis.
[tweet]1555677002392342530[/tweet]
I know what it's like to have a relative where the life support was turned off. My half brother died aged 21 from encephalitis.
This.
The parents might have been a bit more carful over his internet access, too: "Died with a ligature round his neck when an online challenge went wrong". FFS.
Edit: Post 47 suggests this was a lie, and that the lad committed suicide. A bit of truth in the media might be nice. I got my version of the story from the relentless reporting on radio 5.
The mother sounds like a real piece of work too.
The only saving grace in all this was the boy has been dead for weeks and didn't have to suffer the horror show his mother and her anti abortion supporters put on.
Last edited: