[Politics] Reshuffle news...

[Audax]

Cruella gone

Should never have got the job back. And while her sacking today is jolly good news, it's also far too late now. Damage has been done.

James Cleverly seems to be heading to the Home Office

#deckchairs

... FFS. From everything I've seen, that's not going to be much better. Hopefully not for the same reasons and we might see a change (softening) in rhetoric, but I wouldn't expect any actual improvement in Home Office policy and performance with Cleverly in charge.

 

[pb21]

Could bring back Hauge too, but is he too sensible?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

You have to be in either House, so I'd guess he'll now take up a position in the Lords (given by convention all ex-PMs can).

I thought ex PMs couldn’t be made Lords or Baronesses until the previous one was? I thought it was why Gordon Brown turned it down?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I always thought that to hold a post in gov you had to be an elected member of parliament, guess I was wrong.

The bloke who dismantled coal mining was unelected. They just pop them into the house of lords.

Brown's last attempt to stay in charge involved bringing Lord Mandelson into his cabinet. That went well

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

Genuine question as I'm so lost with it all now. I used to remember who held all the top roles as they used to hold them for 4+ years as a time.

Is Cameron (if appointed) one of/if not the first "remainer" MPs to make it into the cabinet post-brexit?

I have no idea, just wondering.

 

[Brian Fantana]

I thought ex PMs couldn’t be made Lords or Baronesses until the previous one was? I thought it was why Gordon Brown turned it down?

I thought Gordon Brown turned one down because he was retiring from front line politics.

 

[Zeberdi]

David Cameron going into Downing Street.... WTF!

#deckchairs

To steady the ship with moderates in exchange for a seat on the House of Lords of course!

 

[HangletonGull]

How can Cameron get to be a cabinet minster when not an mp?

 

[AK74]

David Cameron going into Downing Street.... WTF!

#deckchairs

Popped round to collect his post.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Genuine question as I'm so lost with it all now. I used to remember who held all the top roles as they used to hold them for 4+ years as a time.

Is Cameron (if appointed) one of/if not the first remainer MP to make it into the cabinet post-brexit?

I have no idea, just wondering.

Theresa May and Liz Truss were remainers before the referendum. They backed what they thought would do them the most good in their political careers, not what is good for the country.
Theresa May went straight into Article 50 as soon as she could, drawing up her red lines. She could have started negotiations and eased us out of the EU with minimum pain, but chose not to, for fear of the ERG.
She was also responsible, before that, whilst Home Secretar, for the Windrush scandal but manoeuvred it to allow Amber Rudd to lose her job. She is as bad as the rest for her comments on queue jumpers. Nasty woman.

 

[Brian Fantana]

How can Cameron get to be a cabinet minster when not an mp?

As above, you can be in the House of Lords and a cabinet minister.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I thought Gordon Brown turned one down because he was retiring from front line politics.

They can still retire like Betty Boothroyd, but have a seat in the Lords.

 

[Stato]

Shearer to Newcastle 2008/09?

 

[Brian Fantana]

They can still retire like Betty Boothroyd, but have a seat in the Lords.

He didn't want one though. He specifically said he would turn down a seat in the HoL because was retiring from front line politics and leaving London/Westminster behind.

 

[jcdenton08]

As above, you can be in the House of Lords and a cabinet minister.

Yep, like Peter Mandelson for example.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I just wish they'd do the decent thing and call an election. This reshuffle is utterly pointless.

 

[Frutos]

 

[Thunder Bolt]

He didn't want one though. He specifically said he would turn down a seat in the HoL because was retiring from front line politics and leaving London/Westminster behind.

That doesn’t detract from what I said. No PM should be placed in the HOL until he’s passed on.

 

[Audax]

No PM should be placed in the HOL until he’s passed on.

If he's passed on, not much point putting him there...

 

[Titanic]

That doesn’t detract from what I said. No PM should be placed in the HOL until he’s passed on.

Eh?