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REDLAND
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dave the gaffer said:
don't you think it a little more fundamental than this, people causing pain or destruction to others under the banner of a religious crusade really believe in their religion and what it stands for !!
fatbadger
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Yorkie said:
hence the problem with Protestants, particularly of the evangelical kind - morality over faith, rather than the 'faith over morality' ethos of the catholic and orthodox churches.
Mr Popkins
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religion is the cause of most of the troubles in the world.
if there was no religion the world would be a better place.
people cling to religion as they believe that if anyting goes wrong in life i.e critical illness ,they need to turn to someone for help.
religion is for weak people.
thers nothing wrong with people believeing in religion as long as they respect others and dont preach it to others.
the bible is aload of rubbish, funniest thing ive ever seen is that episode of Red dwarf, where the find the missing page to the bible saying, 'anyting in this book is purely fictitious,
not too far from the truth!
if there was no religion the world would be a better place.
people cling to religion as they believe that if anyting goes wrong in life i.e critical illness ,they need to turn to someone for help.
religion is for weak people.
thers nothing wrong with people believeing in religion as long as they respect others and dont preach it to others.
the bible is aload of rubbish, funniest thing ive ever seen is that episode of Red dwarf, where the find the missing page to the bible saying, 'anyting in this book is purely fictitious,
not too far from the truth!
Wilts
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redland said:
I can tell straight away that I'm not going to win you over, Redland!
Where do these morals (in a society) come from then? Who decides that they are "right" or "wrong" in the first place?
Citizens' charters came out way into the middle of the last millenium and were based on religious morals.
Not saying that religion is an important thing that everyone should have or anything like that, just emphasising that the existence of morals is down to religion initially.
Dave the OAP
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redland.
In some ways you are correct, but it must be said that facism is/was steeped in religious fervour, yet facism was the antithesis of tolerance, which is one of the cornerstones of the Christian faith.
If things are going right or wrong, it is very easy to blame someone or something that can only be quantified in faith. After all, no-one knows if a God exists and we will only find out once!!!! No-one has ever come back to tell us if we are right or wrong to believe, apart from Jesus Christ of course, but again that also depends on your faith.
I think it woudl be great shame if when you die, that is it. It seems like a hell of a waste
In some ways you are correct, but it must be said that facism is/was steeped in religious fervour, yet facism was the antithesis of tolerance, which is one of the cornerstones of the Christian faith.
If things are going right or wrong, it is very easy to blame someone or something that can only be quantified in faith. After all, no-one knows if a God exists and we will only find out once!!!! No-one has ever come back to tell us if we are right or wrong to believe, apart from Jesus Christ of course, but again that also depends on your faith.
I think it woudl be great shame if when you die, that is it. It seems like a hell of a waste
Dave the OAP
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Popkins...Religion is for weak people.
what an offensive statement
Assuming that the great majority of people in the world hold some sort of beliefs and most of the great thinkers and philosophers believe in the existance of a God, defeats your statement dont you think.
"the bible is a load of rubbish"
In what way a load of rubbish. The old testament chronicles the history of the Jewish peoples and relates stories similar to fables that pointed to the way that the people should live thier moralistic lives.
The New testament is the chronical of Jesus's life and his teachings viewed from the 12 followers he chose. Whilst it is obvious some of the events were embelished and cannot be proved ( or disproved) it is obvious that He was a very powerful person at the time who certainly rattled the cages of the ruling intelligencia by basically stating that people should be nice to each other..If they were looking to some Joan of Arc fugure to drive out the Romans He was not the man.if that is rubbish then......
what an offensive statement
Assuming that the great majority of people in the world hold some sort of beliefs and most of the great thinkers and philosophers believe in the existance of a God, defeats your statement dont you think.
"the bible is a load of rubbish"
In what way a load of rubbish. The old testament chronicles the history of the Jewish peoples and relates stories similar to fables that pointed to the way that the people should live thier moralistic lives.
The New testament is the chronical of Jesus's life and his teachings viewed from the 12 followers he chose. Whilst it is obvious some of the events were embelished and cannot be proved ( or disproved) it is obvious that He was a very powerful person at the time who certainly rattled the cages of the ruling intelligencia by basically stating that people should be nice to each other..If they were looking to some Joan of Arc fugure to drive out the Romans He was not the man.if that is rubbish then......
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Mr Popkins said:
Agree with the first line, not sure of the second.
Mr Popkins said:
Some people. Not all. I think most use it for guidance rather than a handbook to life.
Mr Popkins said:
Can't agree with that. I think we could all do with a bit of 'outside help' now and again.
Mr Popkins said:
Agree 100%. I have my beliefs but nobody knows what they are and I would never force them upon anyone.
Mr Popkins
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dave the gaffer said:
and thats the problem i have with people, i cant understand so called intellegent people believing in someting that someone has been made up.
jesus was no son of god ,he was an olden times paul daniels.
i still stick by my statement that religion is for weak people.
Lush
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I ticked "None At All".
Hope God wasn't watching.
Hope God wasn't watching.
Mr Popkins
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this thread just confirms my beliefs that religion causes conflict
already people are getting into a heated debat !
for christs sake ,will you all stop arguing!!!
already people are getting into a heated debat !
for christs sake ,will you all stop arguing!!!
Dave the OAP
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you say stop arguing and then come out with a comment that Jesus was a " paul daniels"
And I thought the power of intelligent debate was passed.
Nice one.
And I thought the power of intelligent debate was passed.
Nice one.
Seagullible
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Mr Popkins said:
very much agree with this. I have my own beliefs and follow them without pushing it on others and I expect the same from them. Next time someone comes to your door, invite them in and tel themto listen to your vies - can be very funny!
Dave the OAP
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I always say I am | a Jew when they call, surprisingly they make their excuses and leave
LOL
LOL
bhaexpress
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I'm just plain apathetic, don't give a damn about any religion as they're all a bunch of hypocrits.
Mr Popkins said:
It only becomes an argument when either side does not respect the ability of the other to have their own opinion... ie you...
If find your statement below rather odd frankly.....
Mr Popkins said: