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[Football] Raphael Dwamena RIP



atomised

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Sure someone mentioned a case on here yesterday where a deal was completed on deadline day but then work permit and clearance took some time or were rejected 2 or 3 weeks after so the player returned to their original club. Its only the transfer that has to be done by deadline day
 




Springal

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Sounds like he has a plan which involves playing again in Spain with a significant signing on fee.

Seems reasonable, and to his credit he has given the club plenty of notice to plan.

Watford could therefore be his last game for the albion, followed by a loan out provided all wages are covered ?

I don't think there are many Spanish clubs that could afford his wages as they are now. Would we be willing to subsidies?
 




brightn'ove

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That sounds about right as you never hear of these work permit /clearance problems with any of the top 6 clubs in the Premier. They buy who they want and pay as much as is needed but still have no problem getting permits. Even Tevez and his 3rd party ownership was overcome. The problem of course is the time scale for these things to happen as the window closes in 10 days time.

The difference is that top clubs are usually buying top-level internationals that have played all if not most of the last xx number of games for the national team. This automatically qualifies them for a work permit.
 


BensGrandad

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The difference is that top clubs are usually buying top-level internationals that have played all if not most of the last xx number of games for the national team. This automatically qualifies them for a work permit.

That is true of course but surely having played for your country x number of time should be the major requirement whether it be Spain or Faroe Islands they are all part of FIFA. It could be argued that a player for Faroe Islands may not be as good as a League 2 player here but a player can only aim for and reach the heights of representing his country before he can move to a better general standard like Premier or La Ligue if born in a small country.
 




Mr deez

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That sounds about right as you never hear of these work permit /clearance problems with any of the top 6 clubs in the Premier. They buy who they want and pay as much as is needed but still have no problem getting permits. Even Tevez and his 3rd party ownership was overcome. The problem of course is the time scale for these things to happen as the window closes in 10 days time.

Surely that's because the top clubs buy players already playing for their countries, and so easily meet the permit criteria?. The worse a player, the tougher it is to get a permit.
 


Kalimantan Gull

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That is true of course but surely having played for your country x number of time should be the major requirement whether it be Spain or Faroe Islands they are all part of FIFA. It could be argued that a player for Faroe Islands may not be as good as a League 2 player here but a player can only aim for and reach the heights of representing his country before he can move to a better general standard like Premier or La Ligue if born in a small country.
Its a fair point, although of course anyone qualifying for the the faeroes or san marino would also qualify for Denmark (Norway?) or Italy. But yeah, as Birmingham found with the Nigerian, things arent always fair. Izquierdo hasn't played a third of his countries last so many games but got a work permit - prob coz hes heading for the prem. This Ghanian will be trickier, but let's hope all works out
 






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http://ghanasoccernet.com/ghana-str...automatic-uk-work-permit-to-play-for-brighton


Non-EU players have to play 75 per cent of their country's competitive matches over the last two years - if the country was in the top 50 of the FIFA rankings to qualify for an automatic permit.

With Ghana currently 50th in the FIFA ranking, the 21-year-old would have qualified for an automatic permit if he had played 75% of the matches for the Black Stars over the past two years.

The striker made his Ghana debut just two months ago when they faced Ethiopia in the Africa Cup of Nations and he scored two goals in the 5-0 massacre which means he won't qualify for the permit.

However, in the case of players aged 21 or under at the time of application, the period is reduced to one year. The aim is to make it easier for young, outstanding talent to grow their game in the UK.

If a club’s application is rejected, there is an appeals process. The Exceptions Panel is the appeals body which will consider, on a points based system, the player’s experience and value before deciding whether the player can join the club, regardless of their failed application. A stricter assessment of relevant objective criteria will be applied in an appea
 


dwayne

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Non-EU players have to play 75 per cent of their country's competitive matches over the last two years - if the country was in the top 50 of the FIFA rankings to qualify for an automatic permit.

With Ghana currently 50th in the FIFA ranking, the 21-year-old would have qualified for an automatic permit if he had played 75% of the matches for the Black Stars over the past two years.

The striker made his Ghana debut just two months ago when they faced Ethiopia in the Africa Cup of Nations and he scored two goals in the 5-0 massacre which means he won't qualify for the permit.

However, in the case of players aged 21 or under at the time of application, the period is reduced to one year. The aim is to make it easier for young, outstanding talent to grow their game in the UK.

If a club’s application is rejected, there is an appeals process. The Exceptions Panel is the appeals body which will consider, on a points based system, the player’s experience and value before deciding whether the player can join the club, regardless of their failed application. A stricter assessment of relevant objective criteria will be applied in an appea

Well seeing as he's only played one international game it doesn't seem that likely we will get him based on that report.
 






trueblue

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Jul 5, 2003
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Very left footed?

I disagree. Watch his goals again. Like some strikers, he'll not try and move the ball to his preferred foot (left peg) all the time and he's happy to shoot with his right. Check out his 2nd against Ethiopia, that is a sweet right foot he's got.

https://youtu.be/F_a9eu5r16c

I assume you're talking about the 2nd goal in the match - which was a great right-footed strike. But it's not Dwamena.
 


Blue Valkyrie

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http://ghanasoccernet.com/ghana-str...automatic-uk-work-permit-to-play-for-brighton


Non-EU players have to play 75 per cent of their country's competitive matches over the last two years - if the country was in the top 50 of the FIFA rankings to qualify for an automatic permit.

With Ghana currently 50th in the FIFA ranking, the 21-year-old would have qualified for an automatic permit if he had played 75% of the matches for the Black Stars over the past two years.

The striker made his Ghana debut just two months ago when they faced Ethiopia in the Africa Cup of Nations and he scored two goals in the 5-0 massacre which means he won't qualify for the permit.

However, in the case of players aged 21 or under at the time of application, the period is reduced to one year. The aim is to make it easier for young, outstanding talent to grow their game in the UK.

If a club’s application is rejected, there is an appeals process. The Exceptions Panel is the appeals body which will consider, on a points based system, the player’s experience and value before deciding whether the player can join the club, regardless of their failed application. A stricter assessment of relevant objective criteria will be applied in an appea
Doesn't look good, does it ?
 






trueblue

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Doesn't look good, does it ?

Lots of players come over without having played 75% of the games for their country though. I believe we primarily have to make a strong case that he offers a lot more than we could obtain for the same price in this country - which might be achievable when the going rate for Chris Wood is £15m.
 


Easy 10

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I'm sure Barber and the boys wouldn't have wasted all this time on scouting Rafa, and getting to the stage of agreeing a fee and terms, if they weren't fully confident of all the paperwork going through. That would make us look like IDIOTS.
 


GT49er

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I'm sure Barber and the boys wouldn't have wasted all this time on scouting Rafa, and getting to the stage of agreeing a fee and terms, if they weren't fully confident of all the paperwork going through. That would make us look like IDIOTS.
Never mind Rafa at the moment - are the final i's and t's actually crossed and dotted on the Izquierdo deal yet?
 






Easy 10

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Never mind Rafa at the moment - are the final i's and t's actually crossed and dotted on the Izquierdo deal yet?

Not that I've heard.

Club Bruges have to send the paperwork to the FA for them to rubberstamp the international clearance. Till that happens, its no way Jose.
 




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