Racism on the rise in Britain

[joeywortho]

Andrew Neather an advisor to Tony Blair validated this quote.

And then backtracked

 

[Irish_Seagull]

And then backtracked

Never trust a man that can't write his own speech

 

[Nibble]

Do Ukippers EVER get tired of banging on about how they are "not racist but immigration must be controlled"? We get it. What's hilarious is that they think voting Ukip is going to change anything on that front. It is also laughable when you lot say "Whatever makes the main parties sit up and take notice". You don't even have the balls to admit you voted Ukip because you like them for what they are, not for any other reason. Seems a bit cowardly not to have the guts to admit why you vote for them.

You always say "We can't even talk about immigration". Yes. You can. It is ALL you EVER talk about but try and get a clue about it instead of sneering at people who want to talk about it with a bit of sense and an eye on the FACTS.

 

[wellquickwoody]

Seems a bit cowardly not to have the guts to admit why you vote for them. .

From the far end of a keyboard, priceless!

 

[Deleted member 22389]

From the far end of a keyboard, priceless!

I agree. I find the constant nastyness towards UKIP really boring now. Be nice to have some form of proper debate, so we can all work out the pros and cons of the EU.

 

[Irish_Seagull]

Hitler wanted a European Union

 

[Buzzer]

Do Ukippers EVER get tired of banging on about how they are "not racist but immigration must be controlled"? We get it. What's hilarious is that they think voting Ukip is going to change anything on that front. It is also laughable when you lot say "Whatever makes the main parties sit up and take notice". You don't even have the balls to admit you voted Ukip because you like them for what they are, not for any other reason. Seems a bit cowardly not to have the guts to admit why you vote for them.

You always say "We can't even talk about immigration". Yes. You can. It is ALL you EVER talk about but try and get a clue about it instead of sneering at people who want to talk about it with a bit of sense and an eye on the FACTS.

Got to say, that's a bit rich coming from you. Before the elections there were dozens of threads started all ripping the piss out of UKIP and plenty of people sneering, including yourself. Obviously it didn't work. That's probably why you're so pissed off.

 

[GreersElbow]

I have to agree with you the survey is a load of pants and the reporting by the Guardian is verging on the barmy its always good to see an article on important issues like this squeeze Jeremy Clarkson in there somehow......adds to the validity doesnt it.

Are you serious or have you only just paid attention to the past few months in respect of political news?

Hitler wanted a European Union

How many more fallacies do you want to spout?

So did Churchill, is he the same as Hitler?

 

[The Spanish]

If the rich and the global companies pay their taxes then we won't have to worry about overcrowding schools and the nhs ETC... at the end of the day the real fact is 97% of immigrants PAY tax. It is the governments fault if the people feel squeezed, but no we all blame the easy target... the newest minority into the UK..

This is like banging my head against a brick wall

you pay tax when you buy a chocolate bar

 

[Buzzer]

Hitler wanted a European Union

If I were the curator of the Albert Hall, I'd go to the local butchers and buy a sheep's testicle. I'd then stick it in a jar and label it as 'Hitler's left nut'. And when schoolkids came for a tour of the building I'd tell them that Hitler's mum donated it to the Albert Hall over a hundred years ago.

 

[Bakero]

Glad it is backfiring on them. A rotten party who don't want to listen and will never apologise. They like to tell everyone else what to do. Labour treat the general public like little children.

Interesting read below...
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/4917/blairite_immigration_propagandist_smears_ukip

It's not really interesting, is it? It's sensationalist, emotive and laughably one-sided. Reading articles on such an agenda driven site is never going to be enlightening; it only serves to reinforce the views of its readers.

 

[Nibble]

I agree. I find the constant nastyness towards UKIP really boring now. Be nice to have some form of proper debate, so we can all work out the pros and cons of the EU.

Oh, the irony. What I find boring is your new tactic of the minute someone brings up UKIP in a an unfavourable light you yell "stop being nasty to UKIP". "I want to discuss the EU". Well go on genius, discuss it.

 

[Buzzer]

It's not really interesting, is it? It's sensationalist, emotive and laughably one-sided. Reading articles on such an agenda driven site is never going to be enlightening; it only serves to reinforce the views of its readers.

...and that nicely brings this thread full circle, seeing as the subject matter is a very selective reading of some statistics by a newspaper determined to link UKIP with racism.

 

[Nibble]

From the far end of a keyboard, priceless!

Well, yeah, of course it's from a keyboard. You are aware how the INTERNET actually works yeah? Actually...

 

[SK1NT]

you pay tax when you buy a chocolate bar

working tax didn't think I had to spell that one out...

 

[Nibble]

Got to say, that's a bit rich coming from you. Before the elections there were dozens of threads started all ripping the piss out of UKIP and plenty of people sneering, including yourself. Obviously it didn't work. That's probably why you're so pissed off.

I just don't understand why it didn't work. I put a post on Facebook and everything.

 

[SK1NT]

I agree. I find the constant nastyness towards UKIP really boring now. Be nice to have some form of proper debate, so we can all work out the pros and cons of the EU.

Can someone please tell me ONE current EU rule you would change should we leave the EU?

 

[Nibble]

It's important to remember that in times of hardship people are always drawn towards xenophobia, it is simply human nature to blame the "outsider" for domestic problems. This was seen in ancient times, but more recently the Japanese in China, the Armenians in Turkey, The East Indians in Uganda, the Muslims in India - and so on.

UKIP voters ARE xenophobic, opposing immigration is xenophobic by definition. An outbreak of nationalism was an inevitable outcome of economic recession, as we can observe all over Europe, not just in the UK.

However the reason that UKIP and all other far-right parties will always be a joke is because they don't attempt to address the real problems, such as growing social and economic inequality. Immigration isn't the problem, it's barely even a problem - but it does highlight the actual problems, it's just convenient for the main parties and the ruling classes that so many people choose to ignore them, and instead blame other people simply for being from other place.

Well said.

 

[Bakero]

...and that nicely brings this thread full circle, seeing as the subject matter is a very selective reading of some statistics by a newspaper determined to link UKIP with racism.

Worth a read.

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...e-brooker-newspapers-dangerous-drug?CMP=fb_gu

It's perhaps the biggest threat to the nation's mental wellbeing, yet it's freely available on every street – for pennies. The dealers claim it expands the mind and bolsters the intellect: users experience an initial rush of emotion (often euphoria or rage), followed by what they believe is a state of enhanced awareness. Tragically this "awareness" is a delusion. As they grow increasingly detached from reality, heavy users often exhibit impaired decision-making abilities, becoming paranoid, agitated and quick to anger. In extreme cases they've even been known to form mobs and attack people. Technically it's called "a newspaper", although it's better known by one of its many "street names", such as "The Currant Bun" or "The Mail" or "The Grauniad"

 

[Hamilton]

Hitler wanted a European Union

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law