Question to the "we were awful all of last season and fluked all 69 points" brigade

[Chesney Christ]

Question to the "we were awful all of last season and fluked all 69 points" brigade

Name me 6 performances from last season - BY THIS STAGE OF THE SEASON - that were as bad as the following from this season:

Scunthorpe at home (1-4)
Walsall at home (9 men opposition, 0-1)
Carlisle yesterday
Hereford at home (0-0 against bottom of league)
Leeds away (1-3)
Leyton Orient at home (0-0 at home against DIRE opposition)

Given that we were awful every week, and fluked every win when we should have been thrashed, this should be an absolute doddle for you.

Good luck

 

[hans kraay fan club]

errr....ummm....errrrr.....ah.....errrm

 

[vitusvivi]

Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm




?

 

[Chesney Christ]

errr....ummm....errrrr.....ah.....errrm

But we were awful every week! The amount of games I walked away from thinking "how the hell did we..." blah blah blah

 

[Seagull73]

Name me 6 performances from last season - BY THIS STAGE OF THE SEASON - that were as bad as the following from this season:

Scunthorpe at home (1-4)
Walsall at home (9 men opposition, 0-1)
Carlisle yesterday
Hereford at home (0-0 against bottom of league)
Leeds away (1-3)
Leyton Orient at home (0-0 at home against DIRE opposition)

Given that we were awful every week, and fluked every win when we should have been thrashed, this should be an absolute doddle for you.

Good luck

So what's your point, and what would you like to see done about it?

 

[hans kraay fan club]

There actually WAS one game, though not by this stage. Home to Bournemouth - we won 3-2 and WERE terrible!

Still better than being SHIT and losing though....

 

[Simon Morgan]

I agree with your point and I am also disappointed this season....but for argument's sake:

Tranmere (A), Gillingham (A), Yeovil (H)

I appreciate there are only 3, but these weren't particularly clever performances

 

[Dover]

We were bloody awful at times and especially around Christmas.

Also what saved us last season was when Wilkins brought in the old pros like Hart & Mayo who worked like the pros they are. He blooded too many young players at the same time and got caught.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

I agree with your point and I am also disappointed this season....but for argument's sake:

Tranmere (A), Gillingham (A), Yeovil (H)

I appreciate there are only 3, but these weren't particularly clever performances

We lost all those games, so I think you are missing Chesney's point....

 

[Mendoza]

the list to chose from is.....

Crewe 1 - 2 Brighton - opening day
Cardiff 1 - 0 Brighton - Carling Cup
Tranmere 2 - 0 Brighton
Gillingham 1 - 0 Brighton
Brighton 1 - 2 Yeovil
Swansea 0 - 0 Brighton
Brighton 0 - 0 Bristol Rovers
Brighton 1 - 1 Walsall
Brighton 0 - 1 Leeds
Cheltenham 1 - 1 Brighton - FA Cup

This time last year we had 7 wins, 3 draws, 5 defeats = 24 points

 

[Simon Morgan]

We lost all those games, so I think you are missing Chesney's point....

Not necessarily, surely most bad performances constitute a defeat?

 

[Seagull73]

the list to chose from is.....

Crewe 1 - 2 Brighton - opening day
Cardiff 1 - 0 Brighton - Carling Cup
Tranmere 2 - 0 Brighton
Gillingham 1 - 0 Brighton
Brighton 1 - 2 Yeovil
Swansea 0 - 0 Brighton
Brighton 0 - 0 Bristol Rovers
Brighton 1 - 1 Walsall
Brighton 0 - 1 Leeds
Cheltenham 1 - 1 Brighton - FA Cup

This time last year we had 7 wins, 3 draws, 5 defeats = 24 points

So we are 5 points worse off than we were last year. Mmm, massive isn't it?

 

[Mendoza]

So we are 5 points worse off than we were last year. Mmm, massive isn't it?

and we finished 7 points outside the play offs, which is what the target has to be to justify bringing in a new manager perhaps

 

[Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!]

Name me 6 performances from last season - BY THIS STAGE OF THE SEASON - that were as bad as the following from this season:

Scunthorpe at home (1-4)
Walsall at home (9 men opposition, 0-1)
Carlisle yesterday
Hereford at home (0-0 against bottom of league)
Leeds away (1-3)
Leyton Orient at home (0-0 at home against DIRE opposition)

Given that we were awful every week, and fluked every win when we should have been thrashed, this should be an absolute doddle for you.

Good luck

I would make that a list of seven by adding the 1-1 draw at home to Bristol Rovers (a Forster penalty and one chance created from open play all game).

 

[Dover]

Last year it was also obvious that Wilkins wished to play systems that his players did not understand. Anyone remember the Diamond. Thought not?

Now. I wonder about Mickeys tactics, but I do have faith in him, and increasingly more so. What we have now is a manager, and not a no2 made into that position. Just take our present Prime Minister, to what we had before, and likewise I can run a shift, but not the ward or higher, I am not a manager, and some people like me will never be.

 

[blockhseagull]

Think the whole arguement started in that many have claimed that Wilkins was a great manager and we played quality football under him.

That simply isn't true and although we are SLIGHTLY behind where we were at this time last season the standard of football hasn't really got worse.

 

[Seagull73]

Last year it was also obvious that Wilkins wished to play systems that his players did not understand. Anyone remember the Diamond. Thought not?

Now. I wonder about Mickeys tactics, but I do have faith in him, and increasingly more so. What we have now is a manager, and not a no2 made into that position. Just take our present Prime Minister, to what we had before, and likewise I can run a shift, but not the ward or higher, I am not a manager, and some people like me will never be.

Thank Christ for that. A sensible post.

 

[Silent Bob]

Think the whole arguement started in that many have claimed that Wilkins was a great manager and we played quality football under him.

Please find me one example of someone saying that. Thanks.


They say the league table doesn't lie. Obviously we know better.

 

[Simon Morgan]

Name me 6 performances from last season - BY THIS STAGE OF THE SEASON - that were as bad as the following from this season:

Scunthorpe at home (1-4)
Walsall at home (9 men opposition, 0-1)
Carlisle yesterday
Hereford at home (0-0 against bottom of league)
Leeds away (1-3)
Leyton Orient at home (0-0 at home against DIRE opposition)

Given that we were awful every week, and fluked every win when we should have been thrashed, this should be an absolute doddle for you.

Good luck

What about the previous season? That was pretty f***ing shit, especially at home, but by sticking with Wilkins, the following season showed we did the right thing. Who's to say the same can't happen with Adams? This season has been poor, there is no doubt about that, but as people rightly say we do have a talented squad, which is something. Did the start of last season's results surpass Man C? Leicester? Millwall? even Southend away? Debatable.

The whole 'we were shit and fluked 69 points' bullshit you are attaching to members of the board is ridiculous. No one thinks that. I think our strong finish to the season taints people's views on what they saw earlier on. We played pretty badly against Northampton and Southend at home, but grinded out the results. That is our problem at the moment. Towards the end of last season, the football did improve, but earlier on I don't think we played too much great stuff. So if it's performances you're alluding to, then don't be too pleased with yourself, because some of them weren't great. We had a greater ability to grind out results whilst playing badly last year. I certainly walked away from Withdean with that feeling a few times.

Of course I am not trying to suggest that we are better at this stage than we were last season, because the stats and common sense show we are doing worse. The performances have been very disappointing at times. However, there is still a long way to go, and posts attempting to provocate even more unrest under supporters is not helpful in the slightest. I find it interesting that people suggest any other manager would get sacked, Adams is only still here because of the past. I'd actually turn this round and say if it wasn't Adams at the helm, then the supporters would be far more tolerant of our slow start. The hysteria of what he did to the club before is very hard to shake off and I think people are expecting too much of him. Every new manager wants his own team and ours is better than last season IMO. Adams just needs to sort out what he does with it.

 

[blockhseagull]

What about the previous season? That was pretty f***ing shit, especially at home, but by sticking with Wilkins, the following season showed we did the right thing. Who's to say the same can't happen with Adams? This season has been poor, there is no doubt about that, but as people rightly say we do have a talented squad, which is something. Did the start of last season's results surpass Man C? Leicester? Millwall? even Southend away? Debatable.

The whole 'we were shit and fluked 69 points' bullshit you are attaching to members of the board is ridiculous. No one thinks that. I think our strong finish to the season taints people's views on what they saw earlier on. We played pretty badly against Northampton and Southend at home, but grinded out the results. That is our problem at the moment. Towards the end of last season, the football did improve, but earlier on I don't think we played too much great stuff. So if it's performances you're alluding to, then don't be too pleased with yourself, because some of them weren't great. We had a greater ability to grind out results whilst playing badly last year. I certainly walked away from Withdean with that feeling a few times.

Of course I am not trying to suggest that we are better than we were last season, because the stats and common sense show we are doing worse. The performances have been very disappointing at times. However, there is still a long way to go, and posts attempting to provocate even more unrest under supporters is not helpful in the slightest. I find it interesting that people suggest any other manager would get sacked, Adams is only still here because of the past. I'd actually turn this round and say if it wasn't Adams at the helm, then the supporters would be far more tolerant of our slow start. The hysteria of what he did to the club before is very hard to shake off and I think people are expecting too much of him. Every new manager wants his own team and ours is better than last season IMO. Adams just needs to sort out what he does with it.

Spot on

How many supposed GREAT performances can people name from last season