Queen Elizabeth on the move

[daveinplzen]

We have hardly any surface ships left to escort her, and can't afford enough of the jets, so looks like a jobshare with the Yanks

We could share their aircraft carriers, of which there are many.

 

[Chicken Run]

Whilst ex RN, and impressed by these two ships, I cant really think of the purpose. Think we have more important issues in the UK that need addressing without spending funds on strategic aircraft carriers.

Dave, you must wake up each day looking forward to putting the boot into the UK, you come across as very bitter, I bet you were popular down the mess deck.


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[Chicken Run]

We have hardly any surface ships left to escort her, and can't afford enough of the jets, so looks like a jobshare with the Yanks

6 Type 45 Destroyers
13 type 23 Frigates
2 Amphibious Assault Ships
8 type 26 Frigates on order
11 Attack Subs

I think you’ll find we have plenty of ships to form a battle group alongside a state of the art RFA fleet.


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[Bold Seagull]

Dave, you must wake up each day looking forward to putting the boot into the UK, you come across as very bitter, I bet you were popular down the mess deck.

Not sure why saying putting money elsewhere rather than an aircraft carrier is anything more than just a political view point rather than putting the boot into the UK?

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

6 Type 45 Destroyers
13 type 23 Frigates
2 Amphibious Assault Ships
8 type 26 Frigates on order
11 Attack Subs

I think you’ll find we have plenty of ships to form a battle group alongside a state of the art RFA fleet.


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Not a new issue either. On the Hermes paying off trip (83) there was no escort of any kind.
Sadly the old girl is heading to the scrapyard as I type. The Happy H, wonderful ship and great ships company.


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[crookie]

6 Type 45 Destroyers
13 type 23 Frigates
2 Amphibious Assault Ships
8 type 26 Frigates on order
11 Attack Subs

I think you’ll find we have plenty of ships to form a battle group alongside a state of the art RFA fleet.


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I read we are forecast to have 15 destroyers/frigates by 2027, with at any time 5 in training, and 5 in maintenance, leaving just 5 available for missions. Is that really a credible number to form 2 carrier fleets ?

 

[Chicken Run]

I read we are forecast to have 15 destroyers/frigates by 2027, with at any time 5 in training, and 5 in maintenance, leaving just 5 available for missions. Is that really a credible number to form 2 carrier fleets ?

We wouldn’t ever have two carrier fleets out unless we were at war, and by war I don’t mean skirmishes in the dessert.

A standard deployment CBG will most likely consist of 1 T45 destroyer (AAW), 1 T23/26 Frigate (ASW) Possibly an Attack Sub & and a Tide Class RFA

On a war footing we could easily double that group and be very effective.


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[beorhthelm]

I read we are forecast to have 15 destroyers/frigates by 2027, with at any time 5 in training, and 5 in maintenance, leaving just 5 available for missions. Is that really a credible number to form 2 carrier fleets ?

1 carrier fleet. 1 carrier on active service, the other in dock/training.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I read we are forecast to have 15 destroyers/frigates by 2027, with at any time 5 in training, and 5 in maintenance, leaving just 5 available for missions. Is that really a credible number to form 2 carrier fleets ?

If we went to war then the training fleet would be re-deployed

 

[Chicken Run]

If we went to war then the training fleet would be re-deployed

And the ones in for maintenance would be back in fleet fairly sharply too


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[Chicken Run]

Not sure why saying putting money elsewhere rather than an aircraft carrier is anything more than just a political view point rather than putting the boot into the UK?

Oh you think this is the only thread I’m talking about....


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[Chicken Run]

Not a new issue either. On the Hermes paying off trip (83) there was no escort of any kind.
Sadly the old girl is heading to the scrapyard as I type. The Happy H, wonderful ship and great ships company.


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The Indians finally payed her off, she gave great service, got to be the longest serving Warship ever?


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[daveinplzen]

Dave, you must wake up each day looking forward to putting the boot into the UK, you come across as very bitter, I bet you were popular down the mess deck.


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I was popular then, I'm popular now.
Why does the UK need two large strategic carriers exactly?

 

[daveinplzen]

The Indians finally payed her off, she gave great service, got to be the longest serving Warship ever?


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Saw one of the ships that was chasing the Graf Spee under Indian flag out in the far east

 

[Surf's Up]

I was popular then, I'm popular now.
Why does the UK need two large strategic carriers exactly?

To provide **** off, massive, unmissable, easy peasy targets for incoming enemy missiles

 

[daveinplzen]

Oh you think this is the only thread I’m talking about....


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I served the country. You?

 

[Chicken Run]

I was popular then, I'm popular now.
Why does the UK need two large strategic carriers exactly?

It needs one to be ready at all times possibly deployed whilst the other in refit/training etc.


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[Chicken Run]

I served the country. You?

Dave you know I was in the Navy ffs, are you ok?


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[Deportivo Seagull]

I was popular then, I'm popular now.
Why does the UK need two large strategic carriers exactly?

Because if you are landing troops in the Middle East you can’t provide air over from the U.K. simplies.


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[daveinplzen]

Dave you know I was in the Navy ffs, are you ok?
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How many people in the mob did you meet who didnt love their country, I love my country, I dont like the crop of governments we have had over the last few years, who feel its ok to lie to the population for personal gain.