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Bakero

Languidly clinical
Oct 9, 2010
14,907
Almería
Johnson's much-aired interview on this began with the words "they're trying to stop me saying this.... ".

I mean, who is? The political left? Ridiculous, when the Tories have control of half the press. The BBC? Well, they reported it as much as anyone. His own party? Unlikely. His own advisors? Possibly. But we know the PM puppet only opens his mouth when Cummings' desperately needs a distraction.

So what he's done is create a completely fictitious enemy. You know - 'them'. Those 'dangerous' individuals who want to strip us of all our freedoms in pursuit of totally unreasonable demands like, erm, equality and meritocracy. Giving everyone a fair shot at life, not just old Etonians.

And those who stand to suffer the most fall for it. Every. Single. Time.

It's just embarrassing, isn't it? At least we're getting a slightly toned-down version of the full-blown cluster**** they have in the States right now.
 


crodonilson

He/Him
Jan 17, 2005
14,062
Lyme Regis
The bait has been cast, I wonder how many nibbles you’ll get...

It's no joke I'm afraid, the gammons and Karen's have had their say.

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Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
Karen’s ?

It's some Australian slang insult about being a white middle class woman. The people using it are as tedious as those that use the word gammon ( outside referring to a joint of tasty meat ), leftie, right wing, snowflake and all the other rather boring stereo typical insults - complete lack of intelligence. Now if only there was a way to list everyone on NSC that has called someone a Gammon.
 


crodonilson

He/Him
Jan 17, 2005
14,062
Lyme Regis
Karen’s ?

Karen is a pejorative slang term for an obnoxious, angry, entitled, and often racist middle-aged white woman who uses her white privilege to get her way or police other people's behaviors.
 






Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
NSC Patron
Jul 17, 2003
19,816
Valley of Hangleton
It's some Australian slang insult about being a white middle class woman. The people using it are as tedious as those that use the word gammon ( outside referring to a joint of tasty meat ), leftie, right wing, snowflake and all the other rather boring stereo typical insults - complete lack of intelligence. Now if only there was a way to list everyone on NSC that has called someone a Gammon.

Jesus wept, really? I’m assuming as with everything else it’s born from social media interaction?
 




Bob'n'weave

Well-known member
Nov 18, 2016
1,972
Nr Lewes
I am sure there are some individuals who fit the 'Karen' and 'Gammon' profile, but not many.

The word is meant to portray the worst of a certain kind of character, a mishmash of ignorant, stupid and racist traits encapsulated in one character, or profile - i.e 'Karen' (White Female) and 'Gammon' (White Male). Easily used as a racial cosh that can be applied to almost any white person who expresses any kind of opinion that does not fit in with your opinion. 101 race baiting tool. Unhelpful, divisive, racist, and ultimately a racial hand-grenade that can be used to vilify someone as encompassing all the nastiest traits associated with the name, to be judged, sentenced and punished accordingly. Good old social justice eh?
 




WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
27,778
It's quite interesting to see which posters on this thread have actually used the term 'Karen'. Lots of posters who are upset by this seemingly insulting term using it, but no posters actually having used it as an insult. All a bit snowflake really :facepalm:

And, as pointed out numerous times before, the use of the term 'Gammon' originates in Nicholas Nickleby in 1838.

The time had been, when this burst of enthusiasm would have been cheered to the very echo; but now, the deputation received it with chilling coldness. The general impression seemed to be, that as an explanation of Mr. Gregsbury’s political conduct, it did not enter quite enough into detail; and one gentleman in the rear did not scruple to remark aloud, that, for his purpose, it savoured rather too much of a 'gammon' tendency.

The meaning of that term—gammon,' said Mr. Gregsbury, 'is unknown to me. If it means that I grow a little too fervid, or perhaps even hyperbolical, in extolling my native land, I admit the full justice of the remark. I am proud of this free and happy country. My form dilates, my eye glistens, my breast heaves, my heart swells, my bosom burns, when I call to mind her greatness and her glory.


A reference to someone who uses faux nationalism to try to bluster their way around their complete inability to understand detail, particularly in relation to politics.

But, I'll let you get back to being outraged :lolol::lolol::lolol:

:bigwave:
 


Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
NSC Patron
Jul 17, 2003
19,816
Valley of Hangleton
It's quite interesting to see which posters on this thread have actually used the term 'Karen'. Lots of posters who are upset by this seemingly insulting term using it, but no posters actually having used it as an insult. All a bit snowflake really :facepalm:

And, as pointed out numerous times before, the use of the term 'Gammon' originates in Nicholas Nickleby in 1838.

The time had been, when this burst of enthusiasm would have been cheered to the very echo; but now, the deputation received it with chilling coldness. The general impression seemed to be, that as an explanation of Mr. Gregsbury’s political conduct, it did not enter quite enough into detail; and one gentleman in the rear did not scruple to remark aloud, that, for his purpose, it savoured rather too much of a 'gammon' tendency.

The meaning of that term—gammon,' said Mr. Gregsbury, 'is unknown to me. If it means that I grow a little too fervid, or perhaps even hyperbolical, in extolling my native land, I admit the full justice of the remark. I am proud of this free and happy country. My form dilates, my eye glistens, my breast heaves, my heart swells, my bosom burns, when I call to mind her greatness and her glory.


A reference to someone who uses faux nationalism to try to bluster their way around their complete inability to understand detail, particularly in relation to politics.

But, back to being outraged :lolol::lolol::lolol:

Cool story Kaza
 


Razzoo

Well-known member
Sep 11, 2011
5,344
N. Yorkshire
The more this craziness continues, the more the divide and conquer tactic becomes apparent. It's in full flow now. I feel that the 20's are going to be an awful decade. I hope I am wrong.
 


Doc Lynam

I hate the Daily Mail
Jun 19, 2011
7,348
All aboard the woke bandwagon!! Don't recall a problem about the singing of RB in the many previous years it was sung, why is it suddenly an issue now. It's history we can't just erase it to appease BLM. They won't be happy until Stormzy is involved in the proms rapping about 'injustice' and taking a knee for that vile scumbag who started this whole ridiculous movement in the first place.

It's not an historical document its a propaganda song. We're not a great nation, we never have been. How many children live in poverty, how many food banks do we have open? How many people of colour have been mistreated through the ages in this country? How have we used power on other countries both near and far?

We certainly are better then many countries but we ain't great by any chalk, that's propaganda and a myopic view of facts.
 






Bob'n'weave

Well-known member
Nov 18, 2016
1,972
Nr Lewes
It's quite interesting to see which posters on this thread have actually used the term 'Karen'. Lots of posters who are upset by this seemingly insulting term using it, but no posters actually having used it as an insult. All a bit snowflake really :facepalm:

And, as pointed out numerous times before, the use of the term 'Gammon' originates in Nicholas Nickleby in 1838.

The time had been, when this burst of enthusiasm would have been cheered to the very echo; but now, the deputation received it with chilling coldness. The general impression seemed to be, that as an explanation of Mr. Gregsbury’s political conduct, it did not enter quite enough into detail; and one gentleman in the rear did not scruple to remark aloud, that, for his purpose, it savoured rather too much of a 'gammon' tendency.

The meaning of that term—gammon,' said Mr. Gregsbury, 'is unknown to me. If it means that I grow a little too fervid, or perhaps even hyperbolical, in extolling my native land, I admit the full justice of the remark. I am proud of this free and happy country. My form dilates, my eye glistens, my breast heaves, my heart swells, my bosom burns, when I call to mind her greatness and her glory.


A reference to someone who uses faux nationalism to try to bluster their way around their complete inability to understand detail, particularly in relation to politics.

But, I'll let you get back to being outraged :lolol::lolol::lolol:


:bigwave:


Oh come on Watford. It's a racial pejorative anyway you look at it. Downplaying it and comparing the use to Dickensian times is laughable. If people hear the word being used today they don't associated it with Morris dancers and frilly cuffs, they associate it with nasty racist whites who need 'educating'. I'm not outraged, i'm just trying to understand how a racial slur is fine if it's used against one particular race, like it's justified? Do you really think it's helpful? Don't you think that it may fuel ignorant people to dispense their own 'justice'? Just wondering?
 


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