[News] Prince Andrew interviewed about allegations

[beorhthelm]

I am not exactly sure how that works, when it isn't written down.

there's plenty written down. its just not all in one single document people can point at and call a constitution. the important ones are appointing the PM and dissolution of parliament. also head of armed forces and some other institutions. Ministers are all appointed to administer on the Monarch's behalf (prerogative powers). if things got really outrageous with government of the day, the monarch could step in (probably need support of Parliament to make it work).

 

[CheeseRolls]

there's plenty written down. its just not all in one single document people can point at and call a constitution. the important ones are appointing the PM and dissolution of parliament. also head of armed forces and some other institutions. Ministers are all appointed to administer on the Monarch's behalf (prerogative powers).

This sounds a lot like my porch roof right now. The important bits are the ones still attached, the gaping gaps are more problematic.

 

[KZNSeagull]

A democratically elected head of state could be constitutional and hold politicians to account while also being held to account for their partisan requirement. Their behaviour and public spending are all open to proper scrutiny, and if they do something wrong they can be sacked. So unlike Prince Charles, who ignores the unwritten rule that he shouldn't become political, in a republic the head of state could be challenged if they step out of line.

All our politicians would have to obey a set of rules that are decided by the people (written down in a constitution and voted on by the public). The head of state would be able to stop the politicians from doing something if they are breaking the rules - but not just because they disagree with the politicians.

It also kicks the house lords into touch but mostly means our politicians and hos are all treated the same in terms of behaviour and morality.

Who will scrutinise the laws being created by the Commons if the House of Lords or equivalent does not exist? A large part of what the HoL does is suggest amendments to proposed legislation so that it is actually workable since the Commons is known to produce a lot a bobbins.

 

[Creaky]

How does the Royal Family stop politicians from controlling another level of Government that the politicians currently control anyway. I'm sorry but you are making no logical sense whatsoever

The politicians don’t currently control the powers that the monarchy retain but never use except by “request” of the government.

For example, the power to dissolve Parliament, the power to veto Bills passed by Parliament, ratification of treaties, inviting political parties to form a government . . . . etc.

Put those powers in the hand of a single politician, (chosen as a candidate for election by the political parties), and all sorts of interesting scenarios arise.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

A democratically elected head of state could be constitutional and hold politicians to account while also being held to account for their partisan requirement. Their behaviour and public spending are all open to proper scrutiny, and if they do something wrong they can be sacked. So unlike Prince Charles, who ignores the unwritten rule that he shouldn't become political, in a republic the head of state could be challenged if they step out of line.

All our politicians would have to obey a set of rules that are decided by the people (written down in a constitution and voted on by the public). The head of state would be able to stop the politicians from doing something if they are breaking the rules - but not just because they disagree with the politicians.

It also kicks the house lords into touch but mostly means our politicians and hos are all treated the same in terms of behaviour and morality.

Prince Charles isn't head of state so he does mention political issues but when he becomes King, he won't be able to.

 

[beorhthelm]

This sounds a lot like my porch roof right now. The important bits are the ones still attached, the gaping gaps are more problematic.

pretty much. changing the nature of the role would lead to filing gaps and producing some formal constitution. which isnt a bad thing, though a list of complications of what to do with this and that power.

 

[CheeseRolls]

Prince Charles isn't head of state so he does mention political issues but when he becomes King, he won't be able to.

He won't be able to or he won't? and is this based on anything more than convention, largely established by his mother?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

He won't be able to or he won't? and is this based on anything more than convention, largely established by his mother?

As agreed when Royalty was reestablished following the disaster that was Oliver Cromwell. King Charles II agreed.
The civil list or sovereign grant was agreed with George III as he was badly in debt so agreed to sign over the income from the Crown estates to the Treasury.

 

[CheeseRolls]

As agreed when Royalty was reestablished following the disaster that was Oliver Cromwell. King Charles II agreed.
The civil list or sovereign grant was agreed with George III as he was badly in debt so agreed to sign over the income from the Crown estates to the Treasury.

The sovereign grant which replaced the civil list in 2010?

Just supposing King Charles can't help himself and keeps having a good old meddle. Government can then withhold the sovereign grant to try and force a resolution. This would require an act of parliament, with just the two houses and a royal seal of approval to bring it into law. Sounds simple enough, or we could all just play roundheads and cavaliers again.

 

[WATFORD zero]

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[Thunder Bolt]

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You do know Rosie is a comedian and a parody?

 

[crodonilson]

The Duke of Yorks birthday yesterday. Hopefully the next 12 months are better for him and the Royal Family than the last 12 months.

 

[The Clamp]

The Duke of Yorks birthday yesterday. Hopefully the next 12 months are better for him and the Royal Family than the last 12 months.

You can be quite amusing. This is not one of those times. Poor form, Crodo.

 

[1066familyman]

You do know Rosie is a comedian and a parody?

Was the interviewer aware of this, or is it another Chris Morris Cake moment?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Was the interviewer aware of this, or is it another Chris Morris Cake moment?

It's GBnews so unlikely.

 

[beorhthelm]

Was the interviewer aware of this, or is it another Chris Morris Cake moment?

it not a real interview. she overlays her video on some broadcast.

 

[Beach Hut]

Back to life and all is forgiveness as he escorts the Queen into Westminster Abbey

 

[Pavilionaire]

No Fixed Penalty Notice for Boris yet, while Randy Andy's by his old mum's side. Well done boys, I think you might have gotten awat with it. A great country for the rich.

 

[crodonilson]

Just enjoying this beautiful commemoration of HRH Prince Phillips life, interesting that Her Majesty The Queen travelled with and was escorted to her seat by the Duke of York, a public sign of her support for him and a first step to a return to public duties?

 

[Beach Hut]

Just enjoying this beautiful commemoration of HRH Prince Phillips life, interesting that Her Majesty The Queen travelled with and was escorted to her seat by the Duke of York, a public sign of her support for him and a first step to a return to public duties?

Far from it Dear Crodo, he probably drew the short straw and also owes his Mum a large sum of money given his recent out of court settlement he had to pay to that woman he claims he never met.........