Neville's Breakfast
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Glenn Murray speaking eloquently on the restart on Sky Sports (the Football Show) at the moment.
[Football] Premier League / Football League attempts to finish the season
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Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
What happens if it restarts and only 2 games are played before it is abandoned ?Yep....until something dramatic happens that derails the whole thing again (I'm convinced it will, if the thing does get restarted at all) - hope it's not the death of a player/staffmember or person close.
Do they take the table after 29 games ( all under original rules ) or the table after 31 games ( with 2 extra games under different rules ) ?
Neville's Breakfast
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What happens if it restarts and only 2 games are played before it is abandoned ?
Do they take the table after 29 games ( all under original rules ) or the table after 31 games ( with 2 extra games under different rules ) ?
Great question. Needs answering by the PL before any matches take place.
What happens if it restarts and only 2 games are played before it is abandoned ?
Do they take the table after 29 games ( all under original rules ) or the table after 31 games ( with 2 extra games under different rules ) ?
Another good point. So many questions.................what if teams get infected players ? How many have to be infected before a team can call a game off (precedent already set here for the lawyers to use - our game was called off v Arsenal when only the manager was tested positive) ? What happens to the schedule if games start to get called off ? How often can teams be expected to play if the schedule has to be rejigged ? How late can the season continue ?
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
A few of his comments, posted on twitter in isolation by Sky Sports (I wonder why) have triggered a wave of Brighton hate again. Glenn lives rent free in their heads.
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
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Sickness does go through teams fairly regulalry and games go ahead so guess be the same. If a player gets flu now then sometimes that goes through the side but guess stricter measures be taken. A few out then providing all the testing and precautions in place then be like any work place. Person is isolated and the business continues.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
It's getting to the stage where it is not worth anyone saying anything to the press about this now.
Let the trolls live in ignorance until a final decision is made.
Silverhatch
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Our club have been consistently transparent about personnel safety and the issue of neutral grounds. If all reasonable precautions can be taken (like most workplaces are being asked to do) and a close eye is kept on the test bed of the Bundesliga - then the EPL should be played out even if the Football League is settled in some other way. And the Albion should (now) keep its counsel other than maintaining its view on personnel safety
No chance of that with Covid - if a player gets infected there will at least be isolating of others for some days - which impacts both training and potentially the next fixture given teams will be playing twice a week.
If you were a player, let's say living with a more vulnerable person or maybe from a BAME background, how would you feel if a team-mate tested positive the day after you'd played/trained with them ? It's all BS, all of it. Safety can't be guaranteed, or anything remotely close to guaranteed and they shouldn't be playing until it can.
What happens if it restarts and only 2 games are played before it is abandoned ?
Do they take the table after 29 games ( all under original rules ) or the table after 31 games ( with 2 extra games under different rules ) ?
Absolutely fundamental. I'm sure everyone in the bottom 6 is VERY focussed on that issue. We are particularly vulnerable to a re-start and then cancellation, if you look at our next 5 or 6 fixtures (not sure what happened to the Leicester game....was it ever re-arranged??!!)
crodonilson
He/Him
What would his views have been had this happened in 2017??
Barham's tash
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Thought I’d share this excellent article from France Football’s British correspondent Philip Auclaire.
https://unherd.com/2020/05/top-flight-football-is-in-league-with-the-devil/
Some choice snippets worth considering:
‘The biggest net winners of a swift restart would not be in Britain at all. They are the Asian online gambling operators, whose size dwarves even their best-known and most successful British equivalents, and through whom an estimated $1 trillion is gambled, lost, won and, especially, laundered every year.’
‘The problem is that the Premier League is used to asking an enchanted mirror: “Am I the fairest league of them all?”, and to hearing back: “Of course you are.” And now, it’s as if it had gone through it and turned into the Mad Hatter. It cannot countenance that its relevance to Covid-hit England could be questioned, as it contradicts everything it holds true.’
‘What it is about is the fear of being left behind. The Germans — whose Bundesliga is well-placed to become a genuine global challenger to the Premier League — are getting ready for a 16 May restart after being given a conditional green light by their federal government. Portugal, which has managed the pandemic even better than the Germans, is on the way back too, and, while France and the Netherlands have pulled the plug on the current season, Spain and Italy are pushing on with their own Project Restarts, albeit far less convincingly.
It is as if the Premier League cannot stand the idea of watching the train leave the station, waving goodbye from the edge of the platform.’
They have such a unique way with words. An excellent counterpoint to our gutter press usual tripe.
https://unherd.com/2020/05/top-flight-football-is-in-league-with-the-devil/
Some choice snippets worth considering:
‘The biggest net winners of a swift restart would not be in Britain at all. They are the Asian online gambling operators, whose size dwarves even their best-known and most successful British equivalents, and through whom an estimated $1 trillion is gambled, lost, won and, especially, laundered every year.’
‘The problem is that the Premier League is used to asking an enchanted mirror: “Am I the fairest league of them all?”, and to hearing back: “Of course you are.” And now, it’s as if it had gone through it and turned into the Mad Hatter. It cannot countenance that its relevance to Covid-hit England could be questioned, as it contradicts everything it holds true.’
‘What it is about is the fear of being left behind. The Germans — whose Bundesliga is well-placed to become a genuine global challenger to the Premier League — are getting ready for a 16 May restart after being given a conditional green light by their federal government. Portugal, which has managed the pandemic even better than the Germans, is on the way back too, and, while France and the Netherlands have pulled the plug on the current season, Spain and Italy are pushing on with their own Project Restarts, albeit far less convincingly.
It is as if the Premier League cannot stand the idea of watching the train leave the station, waving goodbye from the edge of the platform.’
They have such a unique way with words. An excellent counterpoint to our gutter press usual tripe.
blue-shifted
Banned
What happens if it restarts and only 2 games are played before it is abandoned ?
Do they take the table after 29 games ( all under original rules ) or the table after 31 games ( with 2 extra games under different rules ) ?
The answer can only be that if they are official Premier League games, then they must count towards the points total.
It does lead to the possibility that a side, like us, could drop into the bottom 3 for the first time in a season and be relegated, with several games left. Remember, we would have had a horror run in April, then a relatively easy May.
A good read. Meanwhile in T'Athletic, Oliver Kay says "Premier League restart debate reeks of vested interests and self-serving agendas" - he wants it to restart so he's got something to write about. This bit below caught my eye. I know it's not my money (and thank you Uncle Tony), but we've not got much to show for it, have we?
"Brighton are a well-run club in many ways but, according to Transfermarkt, their net transfer spend over the past five seasons is more than £200 million, the ninth highest in world football. Villa are 12th in that particular table, despite having spent three of those years in the Championship, and West Ham and Bournemouth are 13th and 15th — just above Real Madrid. In any year, the threat of relegation after that kind of outlay would be worrying. Right now, in an industry that is already experiencing serious upheaval due to the coronavirus pandemic, it threatens to be much worse."
Albion Dan
Banned
The most depressing thing about our huge net outlay is the lack of decent transferable assets. Other than Dunk (and White) who's worth much at all? We're even likely to end up with the Locadia and Andone wages stuck back on the books whilst doing F all. We really have underperformed terribly.
Albion Dan
Banned
It's great to see Glens views but I do think the PR team at the club need to mandate we go dark on all this now, we have become the poster team for disrupting the restart and even if not true the mud will stick. West Ham learnt this very early after Bradys initial (and self serving) comm's. We've won the neutral venue battle and should now be quiet publicly and let it unfold.
There was an article that popped up from the Sun a few days ago that was basically an attack on brighton and Barber which contained so many untruths it should have been filed under fiction but its objective was suggesting this was the best time to get relegated because championship clubs will be in such a state next season
It's almost certainly the reason Uncle Tony is investing big in the Development Squad. But fortunately some of the big money signings are relatively young, so there is (a) time, and (b) they WILL have a reasonable re-sale value. Plus, I think there ARE some real successes: Ryan, Maupay, Gross, Propper, Mooy, Alzate...
I'd like to think that Bissouma, Webster, Lamptey, MacAllister, Trossard, etc WILL come good. All look promising.
Assuming we get to play football again in the next few years :-(