i blame the parentsVAR or Refs?
I fully blame the FA and local FAs for the standard of refs in this country btw
Although the only one really not at fault was the actual ref. He went with the linesman's decision (which he should do for offside's) and was then told that the decision was correct by VAR.Just caught up with the Spurs - Liverpool game..all those officials involved in the disallowed goal should be sacked. Absolute farce.
The palace one wasn't subjective. It was an offside decision, given incorrectly because the VAR officials didn't notice the palace defender in the middle of the screen.The Palace one provided evidence that subjective decisions by VAR aren’t any better than subjective decisions by refs on the pitch. Yesterday’s Spurs one tells us that VAR maybe doesn’t even watch the game (jet lagged from the UAE flight ?) and certainly doesn’t communicate effectively with the on field ref. Oh and it was live on tv.
No argument from me. I only meant that the VAR in the Palace game subjectively drew the lines in the wrong place, because it isn’t science. He made a mistake based on where he thought the lines should go. Yesterday’s was different in that VAR didn’t know what he was checking. Seems he thought he was confirming it was onside whereas the ref thought he was confirming it was offside. That’s a new one and not a Liverpool conspiracy.The palace one wasn't subjective. It was an offside decision, given incorrectly because the VAR officials didn't notice the palace defender in the middle of the screen.
And my question still stands, was there this much noise over that Palace decision? It was equally, if not more, incompetent.
Just caught up with the Spurs - Liverpool game..all those officials involved in the disallowed goal should be sacked. Absolute farce.
VAR or Refs?
Yes, yesterday highlighted critical and basic issues:The Palace one provided evidence that subjective decisions by VAR aren’t any better than subjective decisions by refs on the pitch. Yesterday’s Spurs one tells us that VAR maybe doesn’t even watch the game (jet lagged from the UAE flight ?) and certainly doesn’t communicate effectively with the on field ref. Oh and it was live on tv.
Just caught up with the Spurs - Liverpool game..all those officials involved in the disallowed goal should be sacked. Absolute farce.
I blame the grandparentsi blame the parents
f***ing boomersI blame the grandparents
Arsenal v Brentford had some offside VAR controversy on the same day/ko time, so Arteta making a fuss rather overshadowed the Palace decision. Then West Ham v Chelsea became the next VAR talking point... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64612850The palace one wasn't subjective. It was an offside decision, given incorrectly because the VAR officials didn't notice the palace defender in the middle of the screen.
And my question still stands, was there this much noise over that Palace decision? It was equally, if not more, incompetent.
This season hasn't finished yet - they may get plenty more before it does.So that's Spurs 3 points better of last season and 3 points better off this, then. I wonder how VAR will get them 3 extra points next season.
do they abuse refs as well?I blame the grandparents
A Liverpool statement issued on Sunday evening read: "Liverpool Football Club acknowledges PGMOL's admission of their failures last night. It is clear that the correct application of the laws of the game did not occur, resulting in sporting integrity being undermined.
"We fully accept the pressures that match officials work under but these pressures are supposed to be alleviated, not exacerbated, by the existence and implementation of VAR.
"It is therefore unsatisfactory that sufficient time was not afforded to allow the correct decision to be made and that there was no subsequent intervention.
"That such failings have already been categorised as "significant human error" is also unacceptable. Any and all outcomes should be established only by the review and with full transparency.
"This is vital for the reliability of future decision making as it applies to all clubs with learnings being used to make improvements to processes in order to ensure this kind of situation cannot occur again.
Good. VAR/Officiating improving benefits us all. Clubs are the only ones who can realistically put pressure on PGMOL to make them fix their issues.A Liverpool statement issued on Sunday evening read: "Liverpool Football Club acknowledges PGMOL's admission of their failures last night. It is clear that the correct application of the laws of the game did not occur, resulting in sporting integrity being undermined.
"We fully accept the pressures that match officials work under but these pressures are supposed to be alleviated, not exacerbated, by the existence and implementation of VAR.
"It is therefore unsatisfactory that sufficient time was not afforded to allow the correct decision to be made and that there was no subsequent intervention.
"That such failings have already been categorised as "significant human error" is also unacceptable. Any and all outcomes should be established only by the review and with full transparency.
"This is vital for the reliability of future decision making as it applies to all clubs with learnings being used to make improvements to processes in order to ensure this kind of situation cannot occur again.