[Albion] PPV scrapped

[Weststander]

As far as I can work out Brighton were on Sky 10 games a season in the first two years if you paid £36 a month for sky and on saw the 10 games then you have paid £43 a game. Clearly better value if you wanted to watch other stuff but i am only interested in watching Brighton.

If COVID and personal issues had not happened I would have gone to 8-10 away games last season and most of the home games as STH. If Sky had approached me and said you could watch the other away games at £15 a go it would be tempting . I could watch 10 games for £150, a trip to Manure alone cost me £110 in ticket, coach , drink and food (others going by train would have paid a lot more). On the face of it that does not seem a bad deal to me. To make it clear though I don't like TV football its no substitute for live games.

Illegal streaming really is not an option , its no different to shop lifting and I don't do that either. People saying its different, its digital so nothing taken are kidding themselves.

I am going to try to watch the Burnley game on Box Office if i can get it to work, I failed miserably for WBA game .

Loyal away supporters spending many £1,000’s on trips throughout a season, represent a small minority of the Albion fanbase and potential TV audience.

To make PPV work for significant enough numbers to make it all worthwhile, there must’ve been something awry with the £14.95 pricing - both in PR terms and simply not enough watching when it wasn’t a top 6 club.

 

[Terry Butcher Tribute Act]

This is going to start in two weeks time. Two weeks after that is the start of December when Amazon have the rights to most of the Premier league games so all in all not a lot gained. By fans and not a lot lost by the Premier league.

30 day free trial or £7.99 a month for Prime. That's £4 a game. Much more reasonable.

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[chaileyjem]

Football fans who subscribe to Sky and BT will continue to be exploited.
They always have been.

PPV offered the clubs a way to get some revenue back.
This arrangement will just benefit Sky and it's existing supporters

The boycott has been an excellent marketing ploy for Rupert Murdoch.

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Murdoch sold Sky to Comcast 2 years ago. Although he does own Talk Sport and I’m sure radio has had a boost so perhaps you’re right.

 

[dazzer6666]

As far as I can work out Brighton were on Sky 10 games a season in the first two years if you paid £36 a month for sky and on saw the 10 games then you have paid £43 a game. Clearly better value if you wanted to watch other stuff but i am only interested in watching Brighton.

If COVID and personal issues had not happened I would have gone to 8-10 away games last season and most of the home games as STH. If Sky had approached me and said you could watch the other away games at £15 a go it would be tempting . I could watch 10 games for £150, a trip to Manure alone cost me £110 in ticket, coach , drink and food (others going by train would have paid a lot more). On the face of it that does not seem a bad deal to me. To make it clear though I don't like TV football its no substitute for live games.

Illegal streaming really is not an option , its no different to shop lifting and I don't do that either. People saying its different, its digital so nothing taken are kidding themselves.

I am going to try to watch the Burnley game on Box Office if i can get it to work, I failed miserably for WBA game .

I pay more than that for Sky and BT but watch a heck of a lot of other games too so it’s not as simple as comparing what I spend on TV subs vs what I would have spent on going to our games (in a ‘normal’ season I’d be paying all the subs anyway and still going to games - behind closed doors has saved me a fortune)

PPV potentially gave me the option of watching games I wouldn’t otherwise be able to watch other than illegally (and delayed). As you say, it’s a viable option to an awayday where there is never much change out of at least £100 - but for now it’s not a choice anyway.

I’ve got Sky, BT and Amazon Prime (and get full use out of all of them), so hopefully won’t miss any of our games, but if some end up on some revised form of PPV not covered by what I’ve got already I’ll probably watch, as it’s better than not being able to watch.

The fact that the PL have realised it’s unacceptable at 14.95 should mean they should bin it now (or reduce the price), not wait until after the weekend.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I knew you wouldn't be able to resist you loveable young rascal.

Keep well my dear friend x

x

 

[Wozza]

As far as I can work out Brighton were on Sky 10 games a season in the first two years if you paid £36 a month for sky and on saw the 10 games then you have paid £43 a game. Clearly better value if you wanted to watch other stuff but i am only interested in watching Brighton.

If COVID and personal issues had not happened I would have gone to 8-10 away games last season and most of the home games as STH. If Sky had approached me and said you could watch the other away games at £15 a go it would be tempting . I could watch 10 games for £150, a trip to Manure alone cost me £110 in ticket, coach , drink and food (others going by train would have paid a lot more). On the face of it that does not seem a bad deal to me. To make it clear though I don't like TV football its no substitute for live games.

Illegal streaming really is not an option , its no different to shop lifting and I don't do that either. People saying its different, its digital so nothing taken are kidding themselves.

I am going to try to watch the Burnley game on Box Office if i can get it to work, I failed miserably for WBA game .

Come on! No-one is paying £36/month for football only on Sky.

Anyway, Sky Sports is available for £10/day (£15/week) on NOW TV.

So £10 a match, not £43!

(And, right, forget any comparison between TV and live events)

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

On VAR, you and I have been the NSC stalwarts in support of it. Friend and Atkinson were disgracefully incompetent pre-VAR, influencing results with major blunders .... everyone seems to have forgotten that.

But I now have two big complaints:
1. Offside goals where they agonise for minutes over part of a shirt being 1cm offside.
2. The ridiculous amount of time from the incident to the decision. At Elland Road on Monday, it was obvious that a Leeds defender had fouled a Leicester player in the Leeds box. But no pen was given by the ref, time passes, Leeds could’ve scored at the other end. Then VAR tells the ref to look at the screen. The ref watches a load of replays on the screen. Finally, although it was always patently a foul in the box, the ref awards a pen.

Football’s a flowing game (except where Warnock or Pulis turn it into a cheating game of attritional time wasting), VAR with these huge delays and decisions made many minutes after the event, means it’s losing that flow.

They need to relax about paper thin offsides unless flagged, and somehow reduce the silly time lags.

Mate (I love that Snoop Dogg ad ),

1. Yes indeed. Clear blue daylight would make it 'feel' finer, as advocated by Arsene Wenger and er,*cough* me. Repeatedly.
2. Let's have a 20 seconds to make yer mind up, vid boys, and then '**** it, let the ref guess' rule. Again, as proposed by *cough* me. Repeatedly.

I am on a roll. Possibly swiss, eh, [MENTION=8158]Molango's visa[/MENTION]?

Hope you're well and braced for the latest covid capers. I'm not, not happy, not relishing a forced return to London in January, at the start of Hard Brexit, and possibly snow drifts (global cooling), not....content.

All the best, HWT aka MIF

ps Warnock and Pulis Not so long ago yet nothing like that is ever likely to (dis)grace the EPL again. TFFT.

 

[Weststander]

Mate (I love that Snoop Dogg ad ),

1. Yes indeed. Clear blue daylight would make it 'feel' finer, as advocated by Arsene Wenger and er,*cough* me. Repeatedly.
2. Let's have a 20 seconds to make yer mind up, vid boys, and then '**** it, let the ref guess' rule. Again, as proposed by *cough* me. Repeatedly.

I am on a roll. Possibly swiss, eh, [MENTION=8158]Molango's visa[/MENTION]?

Hope you're well and braced for the latest covid capers. I'm not, not happy, not relishing a forced return to London in January, at the start of Hard Brexit, and possibly snow drifts (global cooling), not....content.

All the best, HWT aka MIF

ps Warnock and Pulis Not so long ago yet nothing like that is ever likely to (dis)grace the EPL again. TFFT.

Very well, can’t think why but so happy these last two days. Have a great ally in my 15 year old daughter, both glued to CNN.

Although overseas, as a lifelong anti Nazi, you must be optimistic about events in the US.

 

[Wardy's twin]

I pay £10 per month to stream BT via NowTV (as an ee customer) and £22 a month for Now TV Sports package. That's every game going bar the 4 matchdays Amazon have.

Much better value than paying £45 on the last 3 Albion games and nothing else, no?



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but sky only showed 10 albion games in each of the first two seasons. Do you watch games in catch up i.e. when they are shown after they have actually taken place??

 

[Wardy's twin]

Come on! No-one is paying £36/month for football only on Sky.

Anyway, Sky Sports is available for £10/day (£15/week) on NOW TV.

So £10 a match, not £43!

(And, right, forget any comparison between TV and live events)

I don't know how much a sky sports subscription is. I do use NowTV for those games I can't get to but as I said sky only put 10 Albion games live so for someone like me who is only interested in watching Brighton the PPV £15 a game is less than a subscription based viewing.

Personally I think they got it wrong with pricing given that the cameras are already there. For those TV games I have watched , I wait till kick off so missing the pre-match crap, turn the commentary sound off and then leave the room at half time.

Tomorrow is a key game do I feel i want to watch but each to his own....

 

[Blue3]

Good riddance

Shows what targeted supporter power can do I would be happy if attention now changed to the scrapping of VAR

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Very well, can’t think why but so happy these last two days. Have a great ally in my 15 year old daughter, both glued to CNN.

Although overseas, as a lifelong anti Nazi, you must be optimistic about events in the US.

Good man. My boy is still working, thankfully. We are frantically doing out the spare room, just in case.

Not all that optimistic yet about USA. The litigation may run and run......not even a possible massive Covid surge is likely to halt that train, bound for hell.

Luckily we are so much more sensible here.

Hang on......oops! Hard Brexit!

 

[Swansman]

Good man. My boy is still working, thankfully. We are frantically doing out the spare room, just in case.

Not all that optimistic yet about USA. The litigation may run and run......not even a possible massive Covid surge is likely to halt that train, bound for hell.

Luckily we are so much more sensible here.

Hang on......oops! Hard Brexit!

Can I hire your spare room when I go to Brighton to study?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Can I hire your spare room when I go to Brighton to study?

If you fancy the 160 mile round trip and can accomodate a 'no pizza box mountain' arrangement, you're on

 

[Wardy's twin]

Loyal away supporters spending many £1,000’s on trips throughout a season, represent a small minority of the Albion fanbase and potential TV audience.

To make PPV work for significant enough numbers to make it all worthwhile, there must’ve been something awry with the £14.95 pricing - both in PR terms and simply not enough watching when it wasn’t a top 6 club.

I appreciate my circumstances are not that common.

If PPV was to help fans who normally attend but can't ( and i think that was the original intention) then they have been very greedy as NowTV games are £10 . They could argue the addition cost for commentators but to be fair i expect most fans turn them off. What I think they did see was an opportunity to sell the rest of Liverpool, Chelsea, Man utd etc games which they normally don't broadcast live. They really are not interested in Brighton, Palace, Southampton etc. I think the viewing figures bears this out. Unfortunately they cannot do one without the other i.e. they could not be selective about the extra games.

 

[Swansman]

If you fancy the 160 mile round trip and can accomodate a 'no pizza box mountain' arrangement, you're on

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Quite a trip... but you are a teacher at some university right?

I can just study whatever you're teaching wherever you're teaching it.

 

[Invicta]

If you fancy the 160 mile round trip and can accomodate a 'no pizza box mountain' arrangement, you're on

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Give you the real fan post Goldstone experience !

 

[SimpKingpin]

Shows what targeted supporter power can do I would be happy if attention now changed to the scrapping of VAR

They need to invest in training the referees properly.
VAR should have a place in football but it needs to be used correctly (or sparingly).

One of my earliest memories was watching Maradona's "hand of god".
I was an (emotional) little kid but immediately felt we needed something in place to stop that ever happening again.

A whole lifetime later and we have something!
We're just appallingly bad at using it correctly (currently...at least).

 

[Weststander]

I appreciate my circumstances are not that common.

If PPV was to help fans who normally attend but can't ( and i think that was the original intention) then they have been very greedy as NowTV games are £10 . They could argue the addition cost for commentators but to be fair i expect most fans turn them off. What I think they did see was an opportunity to sell the rest of Liverpool, Chelsea, Man utd etc games which they normally don't broadcast live. They really are not interested in Brighton, Palace, Southampton etc. I think the viewing figures bears this out. Unfortunately they cannot do one without the other i.e. they could not be selective about the extra games.

Also caught in a catch 22, where Liverpool, ManC, Arsenal and ManU games on normal Sky would generate lucrative advertising revenue. Restricting that to a PPV audience would dent that hugely, against their small cut of PPV income.

Leaving ‘lesser’ club clashes as PPV fodder, but with almost certainly tiny up audiences and income.

 

[CaptainDaveUK]

My annual footy spend is probably about £250, combination of 2-3 live games, NowTV and occasional one month pass. For fans like me, and let’s face there are a lot, especially of bigger clubs, PPV at £15 would double the normal spend. I really wanted to watch WBA and Spurs but refused to pay the money on principle so just listened on the radio and did a bit of gardening.