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[Albion] PPV scrapped



Harry Wilson's tackle

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So, as someone once said, some people want everything for free!!!!

If nobody paid sky or BT subscriptions then the players wouldn't earn so much etc etc, there'd be less money in the game, we'd probably be playing in a shit stadium with the quality of overseas players that have graced the Amex. The amount of people that moan about players wages but subscribe is a joke.

If people think £14.95 is too much then I assume they have given up their season tickets at that's considerably more!

Indeed. It is folly to conflate the needle with the damage done.

I'm sure that if the clubs calculate they will gain (in the long term perhaps) by now choosing to subsidise the broadcasting of games that otherwise would never have seen the light of my smiling face through their illumination, then so be it.

In the meantime I will happily pay my £15 for the bonus of an unexpected chance to watch the Burnley debacle on actual television rather han via the usual moody stream.
 




drew

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Indeed. It is folly to conflate the needle with the damage done.

I'm sure that if the clubs calculate they will gain (in the long term perhaps) by now choosing to subsidise the broadcasting of games that otherwise would never have seen the light of my smiling face through their illumination, then so be it.

In the meantime I will happily pay my £15 for the bonus of an unexpected chance to watch the Burnley debacle on actual television rather han via the usual moody stream.

I agree and I will have the added benefit of tucking into my piglet's pantry pie just before kick off.
 


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The idea that PPV is exploiting the football fan is a load of old tosh!
These are games which would not have been broadcast, for which there is a market.
They have got their pricing wrong, and it has backfired.
But no-one was ever being exploited.

Sky and their subscribers stand a chance of getting something for nothing out of this and the clubs are footing the bill for it.
Not sure how this is helping the problems at the heart of football.

This.

But do they listen? No.
 




Weststander

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Now now. Less of this bolshie nonsense.

You clearly have no idea how the free market works ???

Everything has a value and everything has a price. Value minus price equals cost.

In these very difficult times, tough decisions have to be made :shrug:

You know the price of everything and the value of nothing. I noticed your absence from NSC in the last couple of days, other than the odd music post .... no doubt sulking because your hero Trump is on his way out. I bet you’re missing your old Alt Right NSC partner in crime [MENTION=277]looney[/MENTION].
 




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You know the price of everything and the value of nothing. I noticed your absence from NSC in the last couple of days, other than the odd music post .... no doubt sulking because your hero Trump is on his way out. I bet you’re missing your old Alt Right NSC partner in crime [MENTION=277]looney[/MENTION].

:lolol:

Indeed. But I had a lovely chat with Das Reich today :thumbsup:
 


Wozza

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We aren't. You may well be.

But we definitely aren't.

Well, we don't know how many matches will be free for all.

But at the very least, it will be cheaper to legally watch the Albion - AND boycotters have sent a message that football fans have had enough of being exploited.

Sorry if that disappoints you. :facepalm:
 


Wozza

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The original press release in September mentioned Pick TV but this was quickly edited and changed. There hasn’t been any games on that channel. Completely forgot about the Leicester game on BBC so hands up and apologies for that, but if the BBC did get a handful of free to air games they will be of similar ilk to that fixture, eg West Brom v Sheff Utd or Wolves v Burnley.

OUR matches are of similar ilk! Fingers crossed, eh? :lolol:
 




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PPV gone, VAR next please.

Is BT Sport free now? Hooray!

(Hang on. I want my money back! :rant:)

VAR gone? Leave all the judgements to the whims of Akinson, Dean, Oliver and Moss? Mmmmmmm......yyyyyyy........................no.

Otherwise, hope your well and kicking bottom :thumbsup:
 


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Well, we don't know how many matches will be free for all.

But at the very least, it will be cheaper to legally watch the Albion - AND boycotters have sent a message that football fans have had enough of being exploited.

Sorry if that disappoints you. :facepalm:

I sort of agree (about the effect of the boycott leading to a fall in price for PPV) but........I suspect it was mostly not worth the agro for the size of the market.

So . . . what about a campaign to boycott the purchase of exploitatively expensive replica shirts?
 






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Weststander

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Is BT Sport free now? Hooray!

(Hang on. I want my money back! :rant:)

VAR gone? Leave all the judgements to the whims of Akinson, Dean, Oliver and Moss? Mmmmmmm......yyyyyyy........................no.

Otherwise, hope your well and kicking bottom :thumbsup:

On VAR, you and I have been the NSC stalwarts in support of it. Friend and Atkinson were disgracefully incompetent pre-VAR, influencing results with major blunders .... everyone seems to have forgotten that.

But I now have two big complaints:
1. Offside goals where they agonise for minutes over part of a shirt being 1cm offside.
2. The ridiculous amount of time from the incident to the decision. At Elland Road on Monday, it was obvious that a Leeds defender had fouled a Leicester player in the Leeds box. But no pen was given by the ref, time passes, Leeds could’ve scored at the other end. Then VAR tells the ref to look at the screen. The ref watches a load of replays on the screen. Finally, although it was always patently a foul in the box, the ref awards a pen.

Football’s a flowing game (except where Warnock or Pulis turn it into a cheating game of attritional time wasting), VAR with these huge delays and decisions made many minutes after the event, means it’s losing that flow.

They need to relax about paper thin offsides unless flagged, and somehow reduce the silly time lags.
 




dazzer6666

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Well, we don't know how many matches will be free for all.

But at the very least, it will be cheaper to legally watch the Albion - AND boycotters have sent a message that football fans have had enough of being exploited.

Sorry if that disappoints you. :facepalm:

Not necessarily - might end up with games not being available to watch at all. If clubs and broadcasters aren’t willing/able to do something everyone agrees on, games will potentially go (legally) unbroadcast. I’d rather have PPV than not be able to watch our games. Only real f-up they made was setting the price too high - at least the boycott made that clear
 


Uh_huh_him

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Well, we don't know how many matches will be free for all.

But at the very least, it will be cheaper to legally watch the Albion - AND boycotters have sent a message that football fans have had enough of being exploited.

Sorry if that disappoints you. :facepalm:


Football fans who subscribe to Sky and BT will continue to be exploited.
They always have been.

PPV offered the clubs a way to get some revenue back.
This arrangement will just benefit Sky and it's existing supporters

The boycott has been an excellent marketing ploy for Rupert Murdoch.

Enjoy your "free" football. :ffsparr:
 


Rinkmaster

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This is going to start in two weeks time. Two weeks after that is the start of December when Amazon have the rights to most of the Premier league games so all in all not a lot gained. By fans and not a lot lost by the Premier league.
 






dazzer6666

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This is going to start in two weeks time. Two weeks after that is the start of December when Amazon have the rights to most of the Premier league games so all in all not a lot gained. By fans and not a lot lost by the Premier league.

Amazon have 2 complete gameweeks -15/16 Dec and 28 Dec........plus a couple of other games. I don’t think they have anything after that (yet).
 


Wardy's twin

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As far as I can work out Brighton were on Sky 10 games a season in the first two years if you paid £36 a month for sky and on saw the 10 games then you have paid £43 a game. Clearly better value if you wanted to watch other stuff but i am only interested in watching Brighton.

If COVID and personal issues had not happened I would have gone to 8-10 away games last season and most of the home games as STH. If Sky had approached me and said you could watch the other away games at £15 a go it would be tempting . I could watch 10 games for £150, a trip to Manure alone cost me £110 in ticket, coach , drink and food (others going by train would have paid a lot more). On the face of it that does not seem a bad deal to me. To make it clear though I don't like TV football its no substitute for live games.

Illegal streaming really is not an option , its no different to shop lifting and I don't do that either. People saying its different, its digital so nothing taken are kidding themselves.

I am going to try to watch the Burnley game on Box Office if i can get it to work, I failed miserably for WBA game .
 


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