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[Albion] Potter- what’s he up to? (Managing West Ham from 9 Jan)



Guinness Boy

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6 defeats in a row at the start of a season?!

This is the biggest load of bollocks and rewriting of history I’ve ever seen on here and that’s a high bar!
Indeed.

The six defeats in a row was in the middle of Potter's best season. Finally arrested with a 0-0 at home to *checks notes*, Saturday's opposition from the Championship.

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Pinkie Brown

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He took the Assistant Manager job at PSV under Peter Bosz. Currently top of the Eredivisie having won 15/17 games scoring at an average of 3.5 goals a game.
It was Feyenoord but you were on the right lines with the country. Probably got fed up with Potter's dithering. A good choice. Rotterdam and surrounds beats a faux villa in Basildon or Romford and the ammers impatient fanbase.
 


Beanstalk

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Beanstalk

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It was Feyenoord but you were on the right lines with the country. Probably got fed up with Potter's dithering. A good choice. Rotterdam and surrounds beats a faux villa in Basildon or Romford and the ammers impatient fanbase.
Spot on. PSV are doing very well mind 😂


Will fix my original post lol.
 




Paulie Gualtieri

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I wouldn’t mind seeing some home wins as my timing to list a few tickets couldn’t be worse.

I saw us beat Man City and the last in person home win before that was Roma. (In March)
 




ROSM

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Indeed.

The six defeats in a row was in the middle of Potter's best season. Finally arrested with a 0-0 at home to *checks notes*, Saturday's opposition from the Championship.

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Were they amongst the time when Pascal Gross wasn't playing? And his return sparked a resurgence in form

Wonder if GP will be calling Pascal in the next few weeks
 




Swegulls

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Ah yes, the fact that home advantage decreased between 2% - 3.8% without crowds meant we went 14 home PL games without a win between July 2020 and January 2021.

As the linked study shows, home advantage decrease only contributed to a reduction of goals scored by the home side (on average) between 0.08 and 0.15 goals fewer per game.

Ridiculous excuse for that record.
The start of that season was surely tougher than most seasons. It's not the whole story of course, but it didn't make it easier.

"With no crowds allowed in Premier League stadiums last season, away teams produced better results and won 46% of the matches in the first 7 match rounds after managing only 29% a season earlier," Simon Gleave, head of sports analysis at Nielsen Gracenote, told Reuters on Tuesday."
 




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I like him, grateful for what he did for us, left us 4th in the table and scoring for fun and paved the way for RDZ to take us to finishing 6th.

He seems a decent chap and I think he’ll do well there.
 




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Were they amongst the time when Pascal Gross wasn't playing? And his return sparked a resurgence in form

Wonder if GP will be calling Pascal in the next few weeks
Gross was playing against Newcastle and on the bench against Burnley. I stopped looking after Newcastle because our midfield was Alzate, Gross and Moder. Not exactly very strong I think we'll agree, though both Biss and Caicedo were on the bench. Contrast that with the first subsequent win away at Arsenal where our midfield was MacAllister, Caicedo, Bissouma, Mwepu and Gross.

So a much weaker midfield in the losing streak, some of it down to injury and some of it down to the coach's choices.
 


ROSM

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Will they be firing up the mid range people wagon from the south coast, equipped with laptops and analysis software that they used each morning when at chelsea?
 


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Can’t wait to see how the Hammers faithful react to winning one game at home in a calendar year given going a week without a home win is usually enough to bring the boo boys out
 




Good luck to GP. He was great for us and it was sickening when he left. Chelsea did him over, which was predictable and that probably fed into all of our anger because everyone could see it was going to happen. I'm over that now.
Think he did Chelsea over in reality. Been paid a fortune for doing nothing for a year and a half🤣
 


Beanstalk

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The start of that season was surely tougher than most seasons. It's not the whole story of course, but it didn't make it easier.

"With no crowds allowed in Premier League stadiums last season, away teams produced better results and won 46% of the matches in the first 7 match rounds after managing only 29% a season earlier," Simon Gleave, head of sports analysis at Nielsen Gracenote, told Reuters on Tuesday."
Most teams had played at least nine Premier League fixtures without crowds in the previous season so it wasn't a complete unknown. Sure it wasn't easy for any team, playing without a crowd was weird for everyone involved. It's been roundly proven however that home advantage, whilst existing, is fairly minimal in modern football. So much so that UEFA rightly scrapped the away goals from all of their competitions. For it to suddenly be the reason to forgive Potter for that god-awful calendar year, is insane.

Regarding the quote, seven games is not a comparable sample size to the study I linked earlier which looks at the long term impact of home advantage during Covid-19. If you're just taking the first seven fixtures then context is key. In the first seven games of 2020/21 City played home games behind closed doors against European sides Leicester (L) and Arsenal (W) with a win rate of just 50%. In 2019 with crowds they played three home games in their first seven against Spurs (D), Brighton (W) and Watford (W) and won 2 with a win rate of 66% so it looks on the surface as if there was a 16% rise in away wins. But without crowds in 2020/21 City beat Spurs and Brighton at home (Watford were relegated) so in a more comparable sense there was actually a 100% increase (from 1 to 2) without crowds for City.

Ultimately though, as I've gone off on a bit of tangent there, our home record under Potter was worse than Hughton's home Premier League record (1.37ppg v 1.12ppg) - crowds or not. He was very good away from home and put together some fantastic runs whilst playing football that was considerably nicer to watch but lockdown had nothing to do with his bad runs at home, if anything the lack of crowds kept him in his easy life job at Brighton.
 


Beanstalk

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Will they be firing up the mid range people wagon from the south coast, equipped with laptops and analysis software that they used each morning when at chelsea?
I believe Glow Up Graham has bought himself the flashiest of flash new cars to drive the 90 minute commute to his new job.
 








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I also note from his presser that he's been working hard practising sucking his teeth so that's it's even worse than it was with us. FH has some serious catching up to do to get up to his standards.
 


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