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Police 'find blood on walls of Madeleine abduction flat'
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Lokki 7
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I regularly went to a hotel called the Bedruthan Steps in Cornwall when my kids were very young. One of the attractions of the hotel was that it had a kiddies dining time of 5.30pm, and then a play time until 7.30. After that you could put your tired kids to bed, and there was a listening service provided by the hotel.
The dinner for parents was from 8.30 onwards. This hotel has won many awards for its family friendly features, and is full of white middle class families, who want to spend the day with their kids, but also spend some time together.
Would it have been easy for an interloper to sneak into a room and abduct my kids, certainly. It could have happened to mine as well as thousands of others. Does that make me and many thousands of others a bad parent? On the strength of some of the comments here it would appear to be 50/50.
Along with many others, I think threre are some weird elements to the McCann case, but for so many to sit in judgement at the death/abduction of a child and and prim and proper over it, all I say is, let (s)he who is without sin cast the first stone.
The dinner for parents was from 8.30 onwards. This hotel has won many awards for its family friendly features, and is full of white middle class families, who want to spend the day with their kids, but also spend some time together.
Would it have been easy for an interloper to sneak into a room and abduct my kids, certainly. It could have happened to mine as well as thousands of others. Does that make me and many thousands of others a bad parent? On the strength of some of the comments here it would appear to be 50/50.
Along with many others, I think threre are some weird elements to the McCann case, but for so many to sit in judgement at the death/abduction of a child and and prim and proper over it, all I say is, let (s)he who is without sin cast the first stone.
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Could this be NSC's first CIVIC PARTNERSHIP? If so I will buy a BIG HAT
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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But, El Presidente, in your example you say a service listening/monitoring service was provided for. And presumably the Hotel had reasonable security. Maybe still a risk, and some wouldnt like it but its not quite the same thing as this case.
At the end of the day the issue is this: Would you leave the kids at home and go to the pub or resturant down the street? If you knew of a neighbour that did so, would you report it or be surprised if social services were round there?
At the end of the day the issue is this: Would you leave the kids at home and go to the pub or resturant down the street? If you knew of a neighbour that did so, would you report it or be surprised if social services were round there?
Dick Knights Mumm
Take me Home Falmer Road
I should be prepared to duck.
If the kids were small I would report them. As for the risk in the hotel, is a small risk too big, even with sophisticated sprinklers, decent locks on doors etc, because if the worst happens, it happens.
Dick Knights Mumm
Take me Home Falmer Road
I thought they were in the next town weren't they ?
No - they were in a restaurant in the same complex. It was a short walk back to the apartment, as I remember the layout - across a lawned area. It wwould be like eating in the garden (although don't go down that path again). The children were asleep. They were on holiday. They had paid top dollar going to Mark Warner.
I have been to that resort - in the next very similar complex. I could imagine myself making that judgement - as would many others on here.
When this original case came up - someone on here posted they would leave their children asleep in the tent whilst camping and go for a walk around the site. These things happen. You make a judgement whether your children are safe.
We could exchange bands tomorrow if he wishes. I just hope his ring is not to tight.
El Pres is right here. Why are you all still arguing. They LEFT THEIR KIDS, their 3year old got taken.
Bad judgement call, bad parenting, call it what you like but they f***ed up.
TSB
Captain Hindsight
"Why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends..."
Dick Knights Mumm
Take me Home Falmer Road
To be clear - we would have gone through the thought processes about leaving them - whether we would or not I do not know.
No. It was perfectly acceptable practise in holiday camps that children would be left in the chalets asleep whilst parents went to the dining area or to a show. Chalet maids would patrol every 30 mins or so and a sign would go up 'Baby crying in chalet 338' etc etc.
It was part of the service, and yes, I used it when mine were little at Pontins in Blackpool.
Bob!
Coffee Buyer
- Jul 5, 2003
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BUT
The McCanns LEFT THE PATIO DOORS OPEN, surely that is the daftest parenting decision ever?
Such a sad sad situation. However what I find even sadder is that most people apply their own set of guidelines/rules/practises to other peoples attempts to raise their children. Everyone who has children has an opinion or suggestion for any issue that arises in relation to raising our little people. Everyone also thinks that their view is correct and right. And you know what - it is! It is correct and right for your OWN family. I have no right to judge another couple in what they chose to do based on my own family rules, they made the decision for themselves, and the good of their own family. I can feel utter utter sadness that their choice has turned out to have had disastrous consequences, but I cannot and will not label them as "bad parents" or "negligent people". Without knowing them that is really really being pious.
I hope she's alive, and I hope she'll come home, but as someone mentioned to me the other day I think she's been stolen to order by a wealthy childless couple somewhere in the world.
I hope she's alive, and I hope she'll come home, but as someone mentioned to me the other day I think she's been stolen to order by a wealthy childless couple somewhere in the world.
oh and I sincerely hope whoever defaced Starrys wonderful website is feeling like the right disrespectful and low life scum that they are. I actually felt sick to my stomach when I saw her post (quoted by someone else)....
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The Daily Mail, of all sources, turn the heat up on the McCann's a notch...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=474656
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=474656
London Calling
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I will then, we have never ever left in a room or flat our children alone, whilst we been on holiday, one of us is always with them, we been to weddings etc, when its their bedtime, one of us is with them.
Whilst at home, when they are a sleep, we have monitors and one of us is always in the house.
Its basic common sense and care. I cannot fathom what the McCanns did its alien to me, its abhorent to me, its neglect and I hope they get Madeline back and I hope our social services and Police get them for gross neglect.
These kids were 3 and under for **** sake. Babies.
LC